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It's fascinating to me that you mention Pittsburgh lefts as a sign of altruism / global-outcome-optimization. I currently live in Pittsburgh and... let's just s
by cfallin 11y ago
It's fascinating to me that you mention Pittsburgh lefts as a sign of altruism / global-outcome-optimization. I currently live in Pittsburgh and... let's just say that I would not hold the average driver up as a model of selflessness. I think it's more that we've reached a local equilibrium:
new drivers learn quickly to wait when a light turns green, as a matter of avoiding accidents, and also to take advantage of that pause when turning left, as a matter of not angering everyone behind them. It's difficult to change the equilibrium as long as you interact with others following the current system.
(It's entirely possible that one could view this as emergent-behavior-converging-on-altruism without anyone consciously being altruistic. I'm just saying that anecdotally, it doesn't seem to derive directly from conscious altruistic values.)
- macintux 11y agoI witnessed a car in downtown Indianapolis pull that stunt. Of course, the driver accelerated straight into a pedestrian, who was less than enthused.
- kevin_thibedeau 11y agoAt least in North Jersey, the persistent problem of making left turns does lead to more altruistic behavior. Many people will yield unnecessarily to drivers and bicyclists who are stuck waiting to turn. It is still aggravating when a signalized intersection lacks a left turn phase, "just because".