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You got your fact wrong. The drive unit was only replaced twice. Second time was pre-emptive and just due to the way it sounded. What other long-term tests are

You got your fact wrong. The drive unit was only replaced twice. Second time was pre-emptive and just due to the way it sounded. What other long-term tests are you referring to? edit: Apologies, I read the Edmunds blog wrong. You were right, they're on their 4th drive unit.

dragontamer 11y ago
http://www.edmunds.com/tesla/model-s/2013/long-term-road-test/2013-tesla-model-s-is-the-third-drive-unit-the-charm.html http://www.edmunds.com/tesla/model-s/2013/long-term-road-tes... > If you're keeping score, our Model S is now on its third drive unit: the one that came with the car, the one that was replaced in November, and this latest one. And that wasn't the only thing that was replaced on this service visit. This is when Edmunds replaced the drive unit twice. Look at the date, Feb 2014. Later, in July 2014: http://www.edmunds.com/tesla/model-s/2013/long-term-road-test/2013-tesla-model-s-drive-unit-iv-the-milling.html http://www.edmunds.com/tesla/model-s/2013/long-term-road-tes... Yet another drive unit replacement. Their Tesla S went through four drive trains (the first one came with the car, and then three replacements) in two years. ----------- Consumer Reports also had an issue with their long-term test. http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/news/a27094/consumer-reports-tesla-model-s-not-recommended-on-reliability/ http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/news/a27... Consumer Reports is a survey methodology, as opposed to a single data-point like Edmunds. But the fact that reliability concerns are hitting the major, reputable, reviewers is worrisome to me. This isn't JUST an Edmunds issue. Everyone is reporting reliability concerns. In part, its somewhat okay because Tesla the company stands behind their warranty and fixed the problems without issue. So as a consumer, you get excellent service. On the other hand, dying in the middle of a highway and being forced to call a tow-truck is not an experience that should be common on a high-end luxury vehicle. The question is if Tesla has solved these issues in time for the Model 3 / mass market.
- burtmacklin 11y ago
  > On the other hand, dying in the middle of a highway and being forced to call a tow-truck is not an experience that should be common on a high-end luxury vehicle. I see you've never owned a German luxury vehicle.
  - dragontamer 11y ago
    Ouch. I feel the burn. Good one. +1.
aetherson 11y ago
You make it sound like the Edmonds people were like "holy shit, we're freaked out by a sound, replace the drive unit." But what actually happened is they heard a sound, took it to an authorized maintainer, and the maintainer was like, "Oh, you need a new drive unit." What does it have to do to count as not preemptive? Burst into flames at 70mph?

dragontamer 11y ago

http://www.edmunds.com/tesla/model-s/2013/long-term-road-test/2013-tesla-model-s-is-the-third-drive-unit-the-charm.html http://www.edmunds.com/tesla/model-s/2013/long-term-road-tes... > If you're keeping score, our Model S is now on its third drive unit: the one that came with the car, the one that was replaced in November, and this latest one. And that wasn't the only thing that was replaced on this service visit. This is when Edmunds replaced the drive unit twice. Look at the date, Feb 2014. Later, in July 2014: http://www.edmunds.com/tesla/model-s/2013/long-term-road-test/2013-tesla-model-s-drive-unit-iv-the-milling.html http://www.edmunds.com/tesla/model-s/2013/long-term-road-tes... Yet another drive unit replacement. Their Tesla S went through four drive trains (the first one came with the car, and then three replacements) in two years. ----------- Consumer Reports also had an issue with their long-term test. http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/news/a27094/consumer-reports-tesla-model-s-not-recommended-on-reliability/ http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/news/a27... Consumer Reports is a survey methodology, as opposed to a single data-point like Edmunds. But the fact that reliability concerns are hitting the major, reputable, reviewers is worrisome to me. This isn't JUST an Edmunds issue. Everyone is reporting reliability concerns. In part, its somewhat okay because Tesla the company stands behind their warranty and fixed the problems without issue. So as a consumer, you get excellent service. On the other hand, dying in the middle of a highway and being forced to call a tow-truck is not an experience that should be common on a high-end luxury vehicle. The question is if Tesla has solved these issues in time for the Model 3 / mass market.

burtmacklin 11y ago
> On the other hand, dying in the middle of a highway and being forced to call a tow-truck is not an experience that should be common on a high-end luxury vehicle. I see you've never owned a German luxury vehicle.
- dragontamer 11y ago
  Ouch. I feel the burn. Good one. +1.

aetherson 11y ago

You make it sound like the Edmonds people were like "holy shit, we're freaked out by a sound, replace the drive unit." But what actually happened is they heard a sound, took it to an authorized maintainer, and the maintainer was like, "Oh, you need a new drive unit." What does it have to do to count as not preemptive? Burst into flames at 70mph?