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Well, as a cohort, this group (to which I belong) seems extremely willing to let employers infantilize them and happy to be seen that way. - They agree to work

by p4wnc6 11y ago

Well, as a cohort, this group (to which I belong) seems extremely willing to let employers infantilize them and happy to be seen that way. - They agree to work in open-plan surveillance offices with maybe 2 lateral feet of personal space and no privacy. - They seem to care more about office trendiness, amenities like roof deck, climbing wall, ping pong tables, than about adequate working conditions. - They allow paternalistic ideas like "unlimited vacation" [0] instead of demanding such things as stated, negotiated, and protected parts of an employment agreements. - They are willing to devalue their labor to accept start-up wages and worthless equity to obtain the above items, mostly so they can pursue social status, particularly tied to living in certain special places. I don't think this is necessarily my generation's fault as much as it has been a concerted effort on the part of organizations like YC to actively influence naive young people to believe they must value these things. But whatever the cause may be, I think it's quite reasonable for people outside of my generation to view us as hilariously infantile for essentially trading away all possible negotiation power for a craft beer at work and the chance to buy $7 coffee. [0] < http://suitdummy.blogspot.com/2016/02/unlimited-vacation-only-what-you-need.html http://suitdummy.blogspot.com/2016/02/unlimited-vacation-onl... >

cylinder 11y ago
I agree. I've been bouncing around the idea of creating a "Millennials[1] Union" blog to promote more collective bargaining and expose how my generation's getting fooled. [1] I hate this word
serge2k 11y ago
> But whatever the cause may be, I think it's quite reasonable for people outside of my generation to view us as hilariously infantile for essentially trading away all possible negotiation power for a craft beer at work and the chance to buy $7 coffee. As opposed to when the last generation sat around while the government made unpaid OT legal?
- p4wnc6 11y ago
  Why do you assume there's a comparison? You could view both cohorts as infantile if you wish. The actions of past cohorts don't make the actions of the current cohort any less infantile.

by p4wnc6 11y ago

cylinder 11y ago

I agree. I've been bouncing around the idea of creating a "Millennials[1] Union" blog to promote more collective bargaining and expose how my generation's getting fooled. [1] I hate this word

serge2k 11y ago

> But whatever the cause may be, I think it's quite reasonable for people outside of my generation to view us as hilariously infantile for essentially trading away all possible negotiation power for a craft beer at work and the chance to buy $7 coffee. As opposed to when the last generation sat around while the government made unpaid OT legal?

p4wnc6 11y ago
Why do you assume there's a comparison? You could view both cohorts as infantile if you wish. The actions of past cohorts don't make the actions of the current cohort any less infantile.