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I am a native-born American citizen living in Russia. The amount of grief that your solution causes me is significant. I'm a legitimate customer who does noth
by siberianbear 11y ago
I am a native-born American citizen living in Russia.
The amount of grief that your solution causes me is significant. I'm a legitimate customer who does nothing fraudulent. However, whole swaths of the internet treat me as if I have leprosy just because my IP address is in Russia.
- omarchowdhury 11y agoSo use a VPN, buddy.
- goodJobWalrus 11y agoSo, I use VPN, and order my stuff to arrive where? If someone doesn't ship to Russia, they don't ship to Russia, how can VPN help there?
- bitserf 11y agoFreight forwarders are how most of us outside of the US get stuff from companies that only ship to the US - There must be a market for such services that ship to Russia too.
- TylerE 11y agoSure, but you've just made fraud cost them actual money.
- jackvalentine 11y agoAs a seller, it is not your responsibility to compensate for the fraud issues impacting your customer's ability to participate in the marketplace without it being worth it. I don't know exactly what causes Russia to be a fraud hot spot but Australia not to be, but the issue can only really be resolve inside Russia.
- rubber_duck 11y agoCouldn't you use VPN ? On the other hand so could the scammers if you could.
- jackvalentine 11y agoI don't know how to say this without coming off harsh, so I'll say it and ask you to use the principle of charity when reading it. If the Russian state refuses to stamp out crime that is causing negative externalities, then people should rightly stop dealing with people inside Russia as a logical response.
- askldfhjkasfhd 11y agoReplace "Russian state" with "African American culture", and I think the problem with this attitude becomes more obvious.
- jackvalentine 11y agoPlease point me to the representative "african american culture" government apparatus and you'll have a point.
- askldfhjkasfhd 11y agoPart of the role of a government apparatus is to enforce social norms. Culture plays a similar role. They aren't the same thing, but they do have similar attributes. Please note that I am not criticizing any governments or culture; I merely wonder why we're OK with nationalism like this, but not racism.
- jackvalentine 11y ago> I merely wonder why we're OK with nationalism like this, but not racism. I'm not appealing to nationalism? "Russia" could be a stand-in for any controlled territory. For example many businesses that trade online in the US attempt to exclude people from the Eastern District of Texas in their terms and conditions. Why? Because the courts there are very friendly to plaintiffs in patent cases and they'd prefer not to get sued in that jurisdiction. That district is causing a negative externality to people outside of it, so they refuse to do business with it.