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high end german cars (like the really high end stuff, the AMGs, Ms, RSs, turbo S's of the world) are all nicer than model S's. tesla just attracts the attentio
by beachstartup 11y ago
high end german cars (like the really high end stuff, the AMGs, Ms, RSs, turbo S's of the world) are all nicer than model S's. tesla just attracts the attention of non-car people who don't have much experience with six figure cars.
- varjag 11y agocould it be because it's a 5 figure car
- rubbingalcohol 11y agomost of the 6 figure cars people are talking about in this thread are 5 figure cars before you spec them out, just like the model S.
- varjag 11y agoAMG (base price of 130,000 USD) and S are not in the same price league, no matter how much you trick the latter out. Sure, extra 40-50k usd can buy you nice leather trim..
- kerryfalk 11y agoC Class AMGs start around $80k.
- beachstartup 11y agoAMG makes a lot of models with a lot of prices. they're all pretty much nicer than the tesla S.
- exclusiv 11y agoIt you are right - that Telsa buyers buy their near 100k cars without knowing about OR looking at the competition - then you might as well be long on them since their sales & marketing is way more efficient. Your dig is actually a win for Tesla and a bad sign for the ones you mentioned. I'm not challenging that, in general, Tesla attracts "non-car people" but the suggestion that people that buy AMGs, RSs and 911s are "car people" is nonsense. I'll give you M though. Regardless of who buys what, because who cares.. let's compare the acceleration performance of a few (0-60 and 1/4 mi): Tesla Model S P90D - 2.8s / 10.9s Audi RS - 3.3s / 11.5s 2016 Mercedes AMG GT S - 3.1 / 11.2 2017 Porsche 911 Turbo S - 2.8 / 11.1 These cars aren't even in the same retail category and Tesla is outperforming those that cost a lot more. Very few 4-door cars offer what the Tesla Model S offers. It's a new brand and seen as anti-establishment, there's not many of them yet, they sell direct and they seem to communicate very well with their customers. Their software and in-car technology is great. People are reacting to many things that Tesla is doing right. It will be interesting to see how they do as they move downward. It hasn't seemed to hurt Mercedes.
- lgieron 11y agoHow can a car be 'anti-establishment'?
- HappyTypist 11y agoNot being sold in dealerships.
- beachstartup 11y agothe funniest thing about tesla is it has spawned all these brand new carguy fanboys who are oblivious to the fact that they are literally engaging in the same inane fanboy arguments that rabid fanboys have been having on the internet for decades now. the more things change, the more things stay the same.
- exclusiv 11y agoThat does seem to be the case, haha. One aspect that is interesting to me is how Tesla will change the performance category. The Model S is a nice looking car but it's a rather pedestrian looking car if you compare it to other cars that cost the same or more. Yet it can beat way more expensive cars and absolutely destroy all the much less expensive tuner cars that fanboys love. So when soccer moms and boomers everywhere can (and do) smoke these other performance cars, it becomes a rather sad reality for them. Until Tesla makes one they can afford. :)
- beachstartup 11y agoi don't think you understand. you're the fanboy i'm talking about.