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This is what I don't get. Do authors of these build tools actually sit down for a couple of months looking at things like Makefiles that have been around forev
by laichzeit0 11y ago
This is what I don't get.
Do authors of these build tools actually sit down for a couple of months looking at things like Makefiles that have been around forever, perhaps even Maven, etc. Take all these things together and go "This is what sucks in all of them, and here's how we can do it better" and still cater for all the use cases that these tools are brilliant at.
It's like there's no thought put into these tools and nothing is built on computer science foundations. Like why are you using Json as the syntax? Ant build files were an abomination and Json really isn't offering anything better (actually way less), except a slightly more readable syntax for trivial use cases.
- oblio 11y agoI think not even Node or NPM learned any lessons from older tools. Look at the recent leftpad fiasco. A decent part of it could have been avoided with namespacing (hello Maven groupIds!). npm didn't have it from day 1 and even now it's optional and basically unused.
- k__ 11y agoHaha, yes. When I saw that LiveScript was using Makefiles[0] to build, I was baffled. To me they were ancient and complicated C/C++ stuff. But when I looked into them, everything seemed rather straight forward, even a bit nicer than Gulp, because of the syntax. [0] https://github.com/gkz/LiveScript/blob/master/Makefile
- wmil 11y agoMakefiles have some glaring issues that can't be easily fixed. The big one is that they break if there are spaces in file or directory names. Sure, you can argue spaces are bad practice. But they are common on OS X and windows. It's a little silly to use a build system that doesn't support them.