But the facts don't reflect what you are saying. Removal of guns from a society lowers total murders, it doesn't just move those murders to some other weapon/c

But the facts don't reflect what you are saying. Removal of guns from a society lowers total murders, it doesn't just move those murders to some other weapon/cause. Look at Australia's crime statistics, or Canada, or Britain before and after serious gun control. They all show this to be true.