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This whole debate about car repairability makes me want to buy my long term dream vehicle now and not later. I currently have a hyundai with a GSM chip somewher
by kylehotchkiss 11y ago
This whole debate about car repairability makes me want to buy my long term dream vehicle now and not later. I currently have a hyundai with a GSM chip somewhere inside, doing heaven knows what. I don't want my car talking to a cell phone tower!
- nxzero 11y agoI would likely agree but curious, why exactly do you not want the GSM chip in the car and what would lost by not having it?
- swiley 11y agoIt could be doing OTA firmware updates for example.
- kaybe 11y agoIsn't it also telling the GSM network where the car is? (Could be a feature of course, but of course also very problematic.)
- kylehotchkiss 11y agoThese chips broadcast cards location back to Hyundai as part of a paid program to see where your car is on your phone. What is Hyundai's data retention policy? Their data security? If it's anywhere near as poorly thought out as their in-car UX, that's pretty scary. I'm sure they'd bend over backwards to law enforcement request of data.
- jacquesm 11y agoYou could simply remove it? Or does it fail to start when the car can't reach the cell network?
- nxzero 11y agoLikely depends of the source of the GSM; some cars are sold with OnStar, LoJack, etc. - and have anti-tamper feature and/or remote kill switch. It's my understanding that OnStar can even kill the car while it's in motion, which seems a bit over the top if you ask me.
- kylehotchkiss 11y agooh yeah, marketed as "anti theft" but scared to know exactly how hard this would be for some bad actor to crack :/
- kylehotchkiss 11y agoIt's possible that the GSM chip working is a part of the immobilizer system: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immobiliser https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immobiliser