> If someone gives you free stuff, they will expect controls like where you are allowed to spend your money and time. Yeah, that's why they should pay you in c

> If someone gives you free stuff, they will expect controls like where you are allowed to spend your money and time. Yeah, that's why they should pay you in cash. Every basic income discussion I've ever seen has been on that basis. > model of taking from the productive sources and rewarding everyone else No, you take from productive sources and reward everyone, even the productive sources. Basic income is not just for the poor. > I spend extra effort doing something else which is harder and my earnings are taken away Only a portion of them. I fail to see how your argument is not also an argument against all taxation, period. > The productive people are dragged down and discouraged The productive people produce if they want more than the minimum. If they do produce, then they get whatever they can earn, and they pay a portion to the government in taxes.