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Ha - imagine a bank robbery escaping in a driverless car, only to have the manufacturer brick it during their daring escape.

cylinder 11y ago
This can already happen with OnStar.
- driverdan 11y ago
  But you can pull the SIM card from OnStar and the car will still work.
kefka 11y ago
I can imagine a much scarier scenario... You use whatever app to summon a car. You give it a destination, and instead, the car makes a detour to the local police station. the address you entered is in a higher crime rate locality, and therefore the car owner approved further "screening". So the car goes to the local police station for a routine search of the car (authorized by car owner) and a dog search of you... That kind of future is one I am worried about.
- anexprogrammer 11y ago
  There was a short story cropped up, I think here on HN, a few weeks back with exactly that scenario. My search-fu fails to find you a link.
  - kefka 11y ago
    You're right. I wasn't sure if it was here, reddit, or somewhere else. IIRC, it also had a quadcopter that jammed GPS or something, and the auto-taxi drove through a bridge and fell in the water.
  - shinykitten 11y ago
    http://motherboard.vice.com/read/one-star http://motherboard.vice.com/read/one-star
- profeta 11y ago
  just because the car owner allow search of his property, it does not make your property available. and i am also pretty sure even a bad lawyer could get you a criminal kidnap case out of this.
  - bduerst 11y ago
    Hah. Has anyone been able to uphold a "You agree to being abducted" in a terms of service before?
    - dragonwriter 11y ago
      It's not, legally, abduction when you are in an airliner and the pilot reroutes because of a security incident; why would it be in a single passenger commercial automated vehicle?
      - bduerst 11y ago
        Because you can't just safely step off of a plane? Come on, that's a terrible analogy. Taxi cabs can't suddenly re-route you to the police station against your will.
  - dragonwriter 11y ago
    Probably not when the TOS of the autocar service includes consent to such security-related rerouting.
- maxerickson 11y ago
  I'm not sure it is so bad for technology to force us to confront our ideas about justice head on. From a ridiculous bullshit standpoint, arrest by autocar isn't so far off from stop and frisk.
8note 11y ago
it would be easier if the manufacturer has it drive you to the police station instead

cylinder 11y ago

This can already happen with OnStar.

driverdan 11y ago
But you can pull the SIM card from OnStar and the car will still work.

kefka 11y ago

I can imagine a much scarier scenario... You use whatever app to summon a car. You give it a destination, and instead, the car makes a detour to the local police station. the address you entered is in a higher crime rate locality, and therefore the car owner approved further "screening". So the car goes to the local police station for a routine search of the car (authorized by car owner) and a dog search of you... That kind of future is one I am worried about.

anexprogrammer 11y ago
There was a short story cropped up, I think here on HN, a few weeks back with exactly that scenario. My search-fu fails to find you a link.
- kefka 11y ago
  You're right. I wasn't sure if it was here, reddit, or somewhere else. IIRC, it also had a quadcopter that jammed GPS or something, and the auto-taxi drove through a bridge and fell in the water.
- shinykitten 11y ago
  http://motherboard.vice.com/read/one-star http://motherboard.vice.com/read/one-star
profeta 11y ago
just because the car owner allow search of his property, it does not make your property available. and i am also pretty sure even a bad lawyer could get you a criminal kidnap case out of this.
- bduerst 11y ago
  Hah. Has anyone been able to uphold a "You agree to being abducted" in a terms of service before?
  - dragonwriter 11y ago
    It's not, legally, abduction when you are in an airliner and the pilot reroutes because of a security incident; why would it be in a single passenger commercial automated vehicle?
    - bduerst 11y ago
      Because you can't just safely step off of a plane? Come on, that's a terrible analogy. Taxi cabs can't suddenly re-route you to the police station against your will.
- dragonwriter 11y ago
  Probably not when the TOS of the autocar service includes consent to such security-related rerouting.
maxerickson 11y ago
I'm not sure it is so bad for technology to force us to confront our ideas about justice head on. From a ridiculous bullshit standpoint, arrest by autocar isn't so far off from stop and frisk.

8note 11y ago

it would be easier if the manufacturer has it drive you to the police station instead