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So how long until Sony lawyers get the Github repo shut down?

by AdmiralAsshat 11y ago

shmerl 11y ago
On what grounds exactly? Sony can't forbid anyone installing other OSes on their hardware.
- Karunamon 11y ago
  Isn't that what they sued George Hotz (aka GeoHot) for, and won an injunction preventing him from touching Sony hardware ever again?
  - shmerl 11y ago
    They didn't win. They settled out of court. It can mean that Sony were afraid to lose (in court). See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Computer_Entertainment_America,_Inc._v._Hotz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Computer_Entertainment_Am... Anyway, it's easy for such monster to intimidate an individual with little resources for legal battles. It doesn't mean that what they (Sony) do themselves is legal in any way.
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- criddell 11y ago
  I don't know the boot process on a PS4, but if loading Linux requires you to modify or bypass any access controls, then it may be a circumvention violation of the DMCA. If loading an alternate OS is a EULA violation, they might brick users machines or at least stop them from using Sony services.
  - shmerl 11y ago
    It might be, or it might be not. DMCA is a major mess and is itself quite unconstitutional to begin with.
  - ascagnel_ 11y ago
    But that's something the user is doing. This repo has the Linux distro, which is by itself neither a circumvention, gives instructions to circumvent, or performs a circumvention of the DRM to run, thereby passing DMCA muster. It's somewhat similar to the situation XBMC was in back when the X still stood for Xbox -- the code itself is OK by the DMCA, but compiling it required use of unauthorized dev tools (if the user didn't have a license from MS, which they likely did not), distributing the binaries was a violation of the DMCA (due to statically linked, non-free MS libraries), and installation of said binaries was also a DMCA violation (as it required the user to circumvent the DRM on the console).
    - tyingq 11y ago
      One github repo mentioned in the article is the exploit, and a basic functional webpage to "do stuff" with it. See, https://github.com/kR105/PS4-playground/blob/gh-pages/js/exploit.js https://github.com/kR105/PS4-playground/blob/gh-pages/js/exp... for example.
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    - bitwize 11y ago
      It is also illegal under the DMCA to traffic in circumvention technologies; ergo GitHub, by continuing to host this material, is breaking the law.
  - hollander 11y ago
    F* the DMCA! That's not my stupid law! Signed - not a US citizen!
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stegosaurus 11y ago
Cloned and ready to rock. Remember 09 F9?

So how long until Sony lawyers get the Github repo shut down?

shmerl 11y ago

On what grounds exactly? Sony can't forbid anyone installing other OSes on their hardware.

Karunamon 11y ago
Isn't that what they sued George Hotz (aka GeoHot) for, and won an injunction preventing him from touching Sony hardware ever again?
- shmerl 11y ago
  They didn't win. They settled out of court. It can mean that Sony were afraid to lose (in court). See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Computer_Entertainment_America,_Inc._v._Hotz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Computer_Entertainment_Am... Anyway, it's easy for such monster to intimidate an individual with little resources for legal battles. It doesn't mean that what they (Sony) do themselves is legal in any way.
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criddell 11y ago
I don't know the boot process on a PS4, but if loading Linux requires you to modify or bypass any access controls, then it may be a circumvention violation of the DMCA. If loading an alternate OS is a EULA violation, they might brick users machines or at least stop them from using Sony services.
- shmerl 11y ago
  It might be, or it might be not. DMCA is a major mess and is itself quite unconstitutional to begin with.
- ascagnel_ 11y ago
  But that's something the user is doing. This repo has the Linux distro, which is by itself neither a circumvention, gives instructions to circumvent, or performs a circumvention of the DRM to run, thereby passing DMCA muster. It's somewhat similar to the situation XBMC was in back when the X still stood for Xbox -- the code itself is OK by the DMCA, but compiling it required use of unauthorized dev tools (if the user didn't have a license from MS, which they likely did not), distributing the binaries was a violation of the DMCA (due to statically linked, non-free MS libraries), and installation of said binaries was also a DMCA violation (as it required the user to circumvent the DRM on the console).
  - tyingq 11y ago
    One github repo mentioned in the article is the exploit, and a basic functional webpage to "do stuff" with it. See, https://github.com/kR105/PS4-playground/blob/gh-pages/js/exploit.js https://github.com/kR105/PS4-playground/blob/gh-pages/js/exp... for example.
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  - bitwize 11y ago
    It is also illegal under the DMCA to traffic in circumvention technologies; ergo GitHub, by continuing to host this material, is breaking the law.
- hollander 11y ago
  F* the DMCA! That's not my stupid law! Signed - not a US citizen!

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stegosaurus 11y ago

Cloned and ready to rock. Remember 09 F9?