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1. No one is caring about morality in the end. I believe many people do not believe illegal copying to be immoral. 2. Yes, are there any data on that these peo

1. No one is caring about morality in the end. I believe many people do not believe illegal copying to be immoral. 2. Yes, are there any data on that these people would ever pay? 3. Yes and like all digital content we have the ability to spread our work across the globe very fast at little to no extra cost. If we limit our work to a certain country we only have ourselves to blame when people are illegally copying it.

icebraining 11y ago
Sorry, I wasn't clear: I'm a pirate as well. I was just commenting on how these threads always seem to go through the same motions, and nothing is accomplished, because everyone has already heard the arguments against their position and has found them unconvincing.
- staticelf 11y ago
  Well yeah, but that could be said for every political discussion, yet I see a value in keeping the discussion alive.
  - mbrock 11y ago
    There's an interesting part in Alasdair MacIntyre's book "After Virtue" on the "interminable nature of contemporary moral discussions."
  - icebraining 11y ago
    Don't get me wrong, I think there's plenty to discuss on this topic, it's just that HN is not a good avenue for it. First, threads always start as a blank slate, so by the time we get through the obvious arguments on both sides, it has already dropped off the front page and the discussion has died down. The next time, someone will again invariably argue that they can't watch stuff in their country, and someone will reply with one of the arguments I listed. Secondly, since many people consider this topic poses important moral questions, downvotes will invariably be used to suppress valid but disagreeable opinions, and then we'll have more posts of people justly complaining that they've been unfairly downvoted, plus a few assholes playing victim. HN is great for most discussions around technical and business matters, particularly regarding new developments; it's pretty shitty for serious discussion around social and political topics.

icebraining 11y ago

Sorry, I wasn't clear: I'm a pirate as well. I was just commenting on how these threads always seem to go through the same motions, and nothing is accomplished, because everyone has already heard the arguments against their position and has found them unconvincing.

staticelf 11y ago
Well yeah, but that could be said for every political discussion, yet I see a value in keeping the discussion alive.
- mbrock 11y ago
  There's an interesting part in Alasdair MacIntyre's book "After Virtue" on the "interminable nature of contemporary moral discussions."
- icebraining 11y ago
  Don't get me wrong, I think there's plenty to discuss on this topic, it's just that HN is not a good avenue for it. First, threads always start as a blank slate, so by the time we get through the obvious arguments on both sides, it has already dropped off the front page and the discussion has died down. The next time, someone will again invariably argue that they can't watch stuff in their country, and someone will reply with one of the arguments I listed. Secondly, since many people consider this topic poses important moral questions, downvotes will invariably be used to suppress valid but disagreeable opinions, and then we'll have more posts of people justly complaining that they've been unfairly downvoted, plus a few assholes playing victim. HN is great for most discussions around technical and business matters, particularly regarding new developments; it's pretty shitty for serious discussion around social and political topics.