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I'm normally a Linux user but found FreeNAS too restrictive and then spent 2 months worth of spare time fiddling with this thing. The learning curve seems vert

I'm normally a Linux user but found FreeNAS too restrictive and then spent 2 months worth of spare time fiddling with this thing. The learning curve seems vertical at times but I'm finding FreeBSD quite refreshing. Ports and pkg-ng are great (although Australia really, really needs a local mirror). The files I need to boot from live on a USB thumbdrive and I've got IPMI to the box so I'm not too worried. I think buildworld would be pretty slow on this box (Atom C2758). I'll give it a shot. I don't really need vnet but having IPs per jail and some kind of network seperation made more sense to my brain.

kev009 11y ago
Yeah VNET is a pretty advanced feature at this point, hopefully once it's in 11 it will be more approachable to new users without any drawbacks.
- voltagex_ 11y ago
  jails seem like an advanced feature to me - so much manual configuration. Docker has ruined me by hiding the complexity.
  - kev009 11y ago
    check out the 'iocage' pkg if you want to hit the ground running
  - floatboth 11y ago
    Hah, weird. For me, Docker seems to create complexity. Daemon, API, registry… I made a tiny tool that spins up a jail with nullfs/unionfs mounts and RCTL resource limits from a single JSON/UCL file: https://github.com/myfreeweb/sandblast https://github.com/myfreeweb/sandblast
  - AdieuToLogic 11y ago
    I've found ezjails[0] to be pretty nice for managing jails: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails-ezjail.html https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails-ezjail.html It also has nice ZFS support. Here's a short, well written, howto showing an ezjails+PF+ZFS install/config process: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/30063/ https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/30063/ 0 - https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=ezjail-3&stype=name&sektion=sysutils https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=ezjail-3&stype=n...

kev009 11y ago

Yeah VNET is a pretty advanced feature at this point, hopefully once it's in 11 it will be more approachable to new users without any drawbacks.

voltagex_ 11y ago
jails seem like an advanced feature to me - so much manual configuration. Docker has ruined me by hiding the complexity.
- kev009 11y ago
  check out the 'iocage' pkg if you want to hit the ground running
- floatboth 11y ago
  Hah, weird. For me, Docker seems to create complexity. Daemon, API, registry… I made a tiny tool that spins up a jail with nullfs/unionfs mounts and RCTL resource limits from a single JSON/UCL file: https://github.com/myfreeweb/sandblast https://github.com/myfreeweb/sandblast
- AdieuToLogic 11y ago
  I've found ezjails[0] to be pretty nice for managing jails: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails-ezjail.html https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails-ezjail.html It also has nice ZFS support. Here's a short, well written, howto showing an ezjails+PF+ZFS install/config process: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/30063/ https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/30063/ 0 - https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=ezjail-3&stype=name&sektion=sysutils https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=ezjail-3&stype=n...