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You are speaking in broad generalities about a specific and narrow topic. Could you please clarify what public health / food sanitation laws you feel are the on

by arkades 11y ago

You are speaking in broad generalities about a specific and narrow topic. Could you please clarify what public health / food sanitation laws you feel are the one-sided product of lobbyists and special interests and have no "Chesterton's Fence"-type value to speak of?

coldtea 11y ago
Was mostly referring to the zoning restrictions the grant-parent mentioned, here are some examples: https://mises.org/library/zoning-laws-destroy-communities https://mises.org/library/zoning-laws-destroy-communities http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/11/zoning-laws-and-the-rise-of-economic-inequality/417360/ http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/11/zoning-l... http://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2010/12/17/best-of-blog-the-crazy-face-of-zoning.html http://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2010/12/17/best-of-blog-t... Though the situation and intent of lots of these is much worse, "City of Quartz" (book on LA's development) is quite illuminating for example. But lots of bad food laws too, e.g: http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2013/apr/15/illegal-food-cheese-us-mimolette http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2013/apr... We have a share of BS laws in Europe too, that killed small producers with "safety regulations" and requirements designed so that only big buck corps can afford them -- despite having no issues whatsoever with said producers' products for centuries up until the 1990s or so when the laws got drafted...
- arkades 11y ago
  I can't speak to the zoning restrictions meaningfully as it's outside my area of expertise. But as to the food law example: Well, that's not an example of a lobbyist-sponsored food law. The FDA has old regs on the books about the maximum number of mites/cheese sample, apparently written for "cheeses at large," to limit the dissemination of contaminated food, rather than one specific type of intentionally mite-ridden cheese. A single instance of a border check resulted in an imported shipment was recorded. In that article, the border control "wouldn't specify what the safe level was." It took 30 seconds to find that the regulatory level is 6 mites / cc, and that the samples they examined exceeded that, some by up to ~660x. This was not part of a broader law or effort on the behalf of the FDA, and future shipments of the cheese got through import checks just fine. Literally, the media and the media alone made up a storm in a teacup over an "attack" on small oversea dairies. Do you have any other bad food laws in mind?

by arkades 11y ago

coldtea 11y ago

Was mostly referring to the zoning restrictions the grant-parent mentioned, here are some examples: https://mises.org/library/zoning-laws-destroy-communities https://mises.org/library/zoning-laws-destroy-communities http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/11/zoning-laws-and-the-rise-of-economic-inequality/417360/ http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/11/zoning-l... http://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2010/12/17/best-of-blog-the-crazy-face-of-zoning.html http://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2010/12/17/best-of-blog-t... Though the situation and intent of lots of these is much worse, "City of Quartz" (book on LA's development) is quite illuminating for example. But lots of bad food laws too, e.g: http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2013/apr/15/illegal-food-cheese-us-mimolette http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2013/apr... We have a share of BS laws in Europe too, that killed small producers with "safety regulations" and requirements designed so that only big buck corps can afford them -- despite having no issues whatsoever with said producers' products for centuries up until the 1990s or so when the laws got drafted...

arkades 11y ago
I can't speak to the zoning restrictions meaningfully as it's outside my area of expertise. But as to the food law example: Well, that's not an example of a lobbyist-sponsored food law. The FDA has old regs on the books about the maximum number of mites/cheese sample, apparently written for "cheeses at large," to limit the dissemination of contaminated food, rather than one specific type of intentionally mite-ridden cheese. A single instance of a border check resulted in an imported shipment was recorded. In that article, the border control "wouldn't specify what the safe level was." It took 30 seconds to find that the regulatory level is 6 mites / cc, and that the samples they examined exceeded that, some by up to ~660x. This was not part of a broader law or effort on the behalf of the FDA, and future shipments of the cheese got through import checks just fine. Literally, the media and the media alone made up a storm in a teacup over an "attack" on small oversea dairies. Do you have any other bad food laws in mind?