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I am looking forward to the Bolt, might even go that route as I like the form factor a bit more than the traditional sedan route Tesla taking. That and I would

I am looking forward to the Bolt, might even go that route as I like the form factor a bit more than the traditional sedan route Tesla taking. That and I would like to do 200+ mile range EV before 2020 rolls around. The one thing that the Bolt raises more so than the 3 is that it will invalidate the pricing this year for any EV that gets under 100 mile range and wants to charge near 30k. When this car reaches the lot people are going to question how the other manufacturers think they can justify near 30k or 50k in the case of BMW pricing for sub 100 miles. Even Chevy might have some issues with range extender Volt which has 50 EV miles. I can imagine some shoppers thinking, it gives up 150EV miles for a gas engine? Then finally when the 3 is available in quantity the other manufacturers better have 200 mile range EVs of their own or severely discounted lower range EV. Most will use EVs to up their fleet fuel mileage but some may find a real market there. Granted even all those reservations for the 3 look nice but 300k isn't squat when up against numbers of all cars just sold in the US let alone world wide

lotharbot 11y ago
> "I can imagine some shoppers thinking, it gives up 150EV miles for a gas engine?" Sure -- I think the Volt is targeting a different use case, of people whose daily commutes are less than 40-50 total miles but who occasionally make long trips. It's basically the perfect car for me (I bought a 2013 Volt off-lease a few months ago.) I'm a stay-at-home dad, my wife works from home, and most of the driving I do is to locations within a 5-mile radius (family, church, the grocery store, and a handful of restaurants.) Two or three times per year, we travel out of state, at which point I'm glad for the ~340 mile combined range and would be disappointed with having to stop every 200 miles and sit for 30+ minutes waiting for a full charge. But for someone who regularly travels 50-200 miles per day, the Bolt or 3 or other EVs in that class might be a much better option.

lotharbot 11y ago

> "I can imagine some shoppers thinking, it gives up 150EV miles for a gas engine?" Sure -- I think the Volt is targeting a different use case, of people whose daily commutes are less than 40-50 total miles but who occasionally make long trips. It's basically the perfect car for me (I bought a 2013 Volt off-lease a few months ago.) I'm a stay-at-home dad, my wife works from home, and most of the driving I do is to locations within a 5-mile radius (family, church, the grocery store, and a handful of restaurants.) Two or three times per year, we travel out of state, at which point I'm glad for the ~340 mile combined range and would be disappointed with having to stop every 200 miles and sit for 30+ minutes waiting for a full charge. But for someone who regularly travels 50-200 miles per day, the Bolt or 3 or other EVs in that class might be a much better option.