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Let me get this right, to subvert the system, all that's required is not to put the listings under in there own accounts going forward and not use a name that A

by nxzero 11y ago

Let me get this right, to subvert the system, all that's required is not to put the listings under in there own accounts going forward and not use a name that Airbnb had seen before; am I missing something?

aquadrop 11y ago
Well, they also should think of the way they will accept money, which is harder to fake.
- nxzero 11y ago
  Not following, do you have an example transaction that might provide some context?
  - superuser2 11y ago
    It may be possible to distribute properties across several fake Airbnb accounts. It is harder to create fake identities with which you can accept payment.
ChuckMcM 11y ago
Hasn't that always been true? A company has to enforce the system in order to remove itself from liability from the enforcement of the rules, it does that by following the strict letter of the law. I don't believe the San Francisco laws put any burden on AirBnB to investigate each of its hosts to verify they are not false fronts protecting the same entity. Once an entity has done that, AirBnb is not liable for them breaking the law (no doubt they require the hosts to sign an affidavit that they are complying with the existing laws) Ideally Airbnb will be good citizens and monitor things like multiple hosts having the same mailing address or telephone number, that is something all businesses should do. But you can't burden them with the investigative requirement to identify people who are willfully acting as bad actors.
- AnthonyMouse 11y ago
  > Ideally Airbnb will be good citizens and monitor things like multiple hosts having the same mailing address or telephone number, that is something all businesses should do. Why should that be suspicious? It's conceivable that someone would run a rental management business with multiple clients that would each list the management company as their mailing address and contact number. It also doesn't seem like it would do much good, since it's a simple matter to get arbitrarily many different phone numbers or PO box numbers (or PO box equivalents that don't parse as PO boxes if PO boxes aren't allowed).

by nxzero 11y ago

aquadrop 11y ago

Well, they also should think of the way they will accept money, which is harder to fake.

nxzero 11y ago
Not following, do you have an example transaction that might provide some context?
- superuser2 11y ago
  It may be possible to distribute properties across several fake Airbnb accounts. It is harder to create fake identities with which you can accept payment.

ChuckMcM 11y ago

Hasn't that always been true? A company has to enforce the system in order to remove itself from liability from the enforcement of the rules, it does that by following the strict letter of the law. I don't believe the San Francisco laws put any burden on AirBnB to investigate each of its hosts to verify they are not false fronts protecting the same entity. Once an entity has done that, AirBnb is not liable for them breaking the law (no doubt they require the hosts to sign an affidavit that they are complying with the existing laws) Ideally Airbnb will be good citizens and monitor things like multiple hosts having the same mailing address or telephone number, that is something all businesses should do. But you can't burden them with the investigative requirement to identify people who are willfully acting as bad actors.

AnthonyMouse 11y ago
> Ideally Airbnb will be good citizens and monitor things like multiple hosts having the same mailing address or telephone number, that is something all businesses should do. Why should that be suspicious? It's conceivable that someone would run a rental management business with multiple clients that would each list the management company as their mailing address and contact number. It also doesn't seem like it would do much good, since it's a simple matter to get arbitrarily many different phone numbers or PO box numbers (or PO box equivalents that don't parse as PO boxes if PO boxes aren't allowed).