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I have a password with multiple special characters and no dictionary word which I type on my laptop everyday and yet I genuinely don't remember it. It's called

I have a password with multiple special characters and no dictionary word which I type on my laptop everyday and yet I genuinely don't remember it. It's called muscle memory[1]. I haven't tried it, but I guess there are all the chances that I will "forget" the password after a couple of weeks once I'm not typing it daily. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_memory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_memory

varjag 11y ago
That's ok, they'll give you a keyboard.
deepnet 11y ago
[Edit] I stand corrected, decryption keys are apparently mostly 256bitAES I still think is not realistic to remember them. If it is just a password to a wallet of keys or an OS then authorities are more than capable of cracking them - just like FBI vs Apple. [edit] disagree ? -- Read the court filing , they assert exactly what is on each disk. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2781972-Lauri-Love-case-directions-April-2016.html https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2781972-Lauri-Love-c... If they already know the disk contents then it is not unreasonable to assume : [Edit] IMHO this fits with the trend of sending chilling effects to journalists - as when they send police with angle grinders to chop up computers and hard drives to the Guardian newspaper ( who then moved to America ).
- cm2187 11y ago
  A decryption key is more likely to be a 256bit AES key, which can be a hash of a strong password. There is no need for public key when encrypting a drive.
  - deepnet 11y ago
    Can you remember a 256bit AES key, though ?
    - cm2187 11y ago
      Again you don't need to. You need to remember a password, and the hash of that password will be your encryption key.
CydeWeys 11y ago
I can, eventually and with many attempts, sit down in front of a keyboard and type out passwords that I last used regularly twenty years ago. Don't sell your muscle memory short. If it's a password that you are typing in multiple times per day you aren't going to forget it in just a few weeks.
- mike-cardwell 11y ago
  More than once I have forgotten the pattern to unlock my phone. The very pattern I draw on the screen more than a dozen times a day. I usually remember it after a few hours without thinking about it, but sometimes I just can't recall it. Shouldn't this law take into consideration that some people have terrible memories?
  - CydeWeys 11y ago
    You aren't permanently forgetting it though, you're just temporarily forgetting it, and you're blanking on it worse than most people do. Law enforcement isn't going to care if it takes you a little bit of time to get past your mental block and come up with the password. It's a much bigger deal if you truly forget it and can't reconstitute it at all.

varjag 11y ago

That's ok, they'll give you a keyboard.

deepnet 11y ago

[Edit] I stand corrected, decryption keys are apparently mostly 256bitAES I still think is not realistic to remember them. If it is just a password to a wallet of keys or an OS then authorities are more than capable of cracking them - just like FBI vs Apple. [edit] disagree ? -- Read the court filing , they assert exactly what is on each disk. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2781972-Lauri-Love-case-directions-April-2016.html https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2781972-Lauri-Love-c... If they already know the disk contents then it is not unreasonable to assume : [Edit] IMHO this fits with the trend of sending chilling effects to journalists - as when they send police with angle grinders to chop up computers and hard drives to the Guardian newspaper ( who then moved to America ).

cm2187 11y ago
A decryption key is more likely to be a 256bit AES key, which can be a hash of a strong password. There is no need for public key when encrypting a drive.
- deepnet 11y ago
  Can you remember a 256bit AES key, though ?
  - cm2187 11y ago
    Again you don't need to. You need to remember a password, and the hash of that password will be your encryption key.

CydeWeys 11y ago

I can, eventually and with many attempts, sit down in front of a keyboard and type out passwords that I last used regularly twenty years ago. Don't sell your muscle memory short. If it's a password that you are typing in multiple times per day you aren't going to forget it in just a few weeks.

mike-cardwell 11y ago
More than once I have forgotten the pattern to unlock my phone. The very pattern I draw on the screen more than a dozen times a day. I usually remember it after a few hours without thinking about it, but sometimes I just can't recall it. Shouldn't this law take into consideration that some people have terrible memories?
- CydeWeys 11y ago
  You aren't permanently forgetting it though, you're just temporarily forgetting it, and you're blanking on it worse than most people do. Law enforcement isn't going to care if it takes you a little bit of time to get past your mental block and come up with the password. It's a much bigger deal if you truly forget it and can't reconstitute it at all.