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The calculation must be based on their internal data. How exactly are they supposed to show the supporting evidence without compromising their users privacy? Y
by sievebrain 11y ago
The calculation must be based on their internal data. How exactly are they supposed to show the supporting evidence without compromising their users privacy?
You seem to be engaged in goalpost shifting. CloudFlare have no incentive to make this figure up. They aren't going to give random people on the internet root access to their servers to recalculate the figure themselves. By claiming they aren't "sticking to the facts" all you do is show a closed mind.
Tor proxies tons of bad stuff. Everyone who has run a big web site knows this. Remember you only need one or two bad guys with fast enough tools to generate a flood of malicious traffic that completely overwhelms thousands of legit web browsing users. It's just so trivial for a minority of bad actors to end up dominating traffic profiles. So, I believe Cloudflare.
Tor guys love to talk about journalists, whistleblowers etc. That must be a really tiny amount of their overall traffic compared to people who just want to torrent, be assholes on forums etc. Just because they love to "educate" anyone who disagrees with them doesn't mean they're right.
- throwaway7767 11y agoIf the calculation is based on data, they should show it. Since they did not, the Tor project made a best-effort guess as to how they could have come up with this (obviously ridiculous) number of 94% of traffic being malicious. I have run a Tor exit node, so I have some intuitive idea of the amount of malicious traffic. CloudFlare are full of shit. The rest of your comment is engaging in the exact same goalpost shifting you accuse me of, suggesting that because there are one or two bad guys it's really no big issue that they block thousands of legitimate users. Also you completely ignored the most important point of my comment, which is that this problem is not restricted to tor! If you wish to further the conversation, please actually respond to my points. Thank you.