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Not everybody is on Amazon and some of us touch our gear. You should be excited because it gives you a rapidly-improving path off of Amazon if you've gone all i
by jsmthrowaway 11y ago
Not everybody is on Amazon and some of us touch our gear. You should be excited because it gives you a rapidly-improving path off of Amazon if you've gone all in on their vendor stuff. Kubernetes helps build that stuff for any vendor. Multiple startups are working on AWS in a box. That was the promise of OpenStack but now you don't need virtualization so it's automatically an order of magnitude better. Maybe two.
People don't realize how deep Amazon's hooks are at scale. We were dropping half a million USD a month at that successful startup I mentioned and could do the same work with four or five racks of hardware, storage included. I bet you could cut your opex in half on something else, and it's a safe bet because (a) I've seen it be resoundingly true even coming from three year reservations and (b) half is actually a conservative estimate. I am floored by how much money the industry throws at the fundamental inefficiency of multitenant virtualization atop AWS.
What a strange argument, considering Amazon a primitive. That's flirting with vendor koolaid. Physical and DigitalOcean/cheapo deployments are an immediate counterexample, too. Hell, if network latency is low enough, you can straddle both and schedule Kubernetes pods on whichever provider is cheaper on a given day. Spot instances, too. Lots of possibilities.
- toomuchtodo 11y ago> What a strange argument, considering Amazon a primitive. Note I said "AWS primitives", not AWS as a primitive. I think they're overly expensive unless you're using them for prototyping, as you should eventually move off to your own gear once you know what your load/compute/storage profiles look like. I appreciate you pointing out that this is most valuable when you're _not_ running in AWS (I work at a startup that wants to use this tech in AWS, hence my not understanding why we'd waste additional abstraction for little additional benefit). Disclaimer: I _want_ to move off of AWS to our own physical gear at some point, but our dev team is married to it because they're afraid of physical infrastructure (but its okay when critical services like EC2, autoscaling, and IAM aren't working for several hours apparently).
- jsmthrowaway 11y agoI've been tempted more than once to found a consultancy just to help get fleets off Amazon, and take payment as one month's difference in opex. I feel your pain.
- toomuchtodo 11y agoIf you ever interested in a partner...
- tobilg 11y agoI had exactly the same thing in mind... I think there's a market for that.