3 ms·

"the generations that grew up with computers will age into politics as previous generations age out" With respect, I keep hearing things like this, usually fra

by m0nty 17y ago

"the generations that grew up with computers will age into politics as previous generations age out" With respect, I keep hearing things like this, usually framed as "things won't get better until the Baby Boomers die out." It's wrong. Greed and stupidity are not correlated with age. There are young greedy and stupid people out there as well as the old ones.

cabalamat 17y ago
> I keep hearing things like this, usually framed as "things won't get better until the Baby Boomers die out." I don't think that means the same thing. Baby boomers are people over 50 or so; digital natives are people under 25. Just about everyone turning 18 today is a digital native -- someone who's grown up with the internet and takes it for granted. Very many of these people have no time for crap like ACTA. Incidently, over half of male voters under 25 in Sweden voted for the Pirate party in the European parliamentary election. If this is a glimpse of the future, I welcome it.
- deleted 17y ago
  [deleted]
- m0nty 17y ago
  > digital natives are people under 25 I'm a digital native and I'm 43. Not a boomer, but still. And I'm becoming probably more radical in my viewpoints as I get older, not more conservative. Seriously, age has got nothing to do with it and the future won't automatically get better just because some people get older and some people die off.
ErrantX 17y ago
I think the issue is this. I see the problems with current politics; I personally think I could do a lot to fix it. I've even been close to stepping up and trying to actually do something the last few months. Problem is I can see that fire slipping away already. I can see how much effort it would take just to give it a shot where on the other hand I know I can live comfortably, start and provide for a family within my current career. Why step up when no one else will. This is the problem: Im sure there are thousands of individuals of my generation with the drive, passion and (crucially) common sense to fix the mess in the future generation of politics. But they all lose interest or faith in the system. So we end up with the second raters in charge (while the smart ones go off and do cool stuff)
- m0nty 17y ago
  > So we end up with the second raters in charge (while the smart ones go off and do cool stuff) Sir John Harvey-Jones was the one-time chairman of ICI who said he went into business because he saw it as a more effective way to make a difference in the world. I don't think doing cool stuff is incompatible with influencing political decision-making. I dare-say, if you can afford to purchase a few politicians (which is what is really wrong with the system) you could make plenty of changes.

by m0nty 17y ago

cabalamat 17y ago

> I keep hearing things like this, usually framed as "things won't get better until the Baby Boomers die out." I don't think that means the same thing. Baby boomers are people over 50 or so; digital natives are people under 25. Just about everyone turning 18 today is a digital native -- someone who's grown up with the internet and takes it for granted. Very many of these people have no time for crap like ACTA. Incidently, over half of male voters under 25 in Sweden voted for the Pirate party in the European parliamentary election. If this is a glimpse of the future, I welcome it.

deleted 17y ago
[deleted]
m0nty 17y ago
> digital natives are people under 25 I'm a digital native and I'm 43. Not a boomer, but still. And I'm becoming probably more radical in my viewpoints as I get older, not more conservative. Seriously, age has got nothing to do with it and the future won't automatically get better just because some people get older and some people die off.

ErrantX 17y ago

I think the issue is this. I see the problems with current politics; I personally think I could do a lot to fix it. I've even been close to stepping up and trying to actually do something the last few months. Problem is I can see that fire slipping away already. I can see how much effort it would take just to give it a shot where on the other hand I know I can live comfortably, start and provide for a family within my current career. Why step up when no one else will. This is the problem: Im sure there are thousands of individuals of my generation with the drive, passion and (crucially) common sense to fix the mess in the future generation of politics. But they all lose interest or faith in the system. So we end up with the second raters in charge (while the smart ones go off and do cool stuff)

m0nty 17y ago
> So we end up with the second raters in charge (while the smart ones go off and do cool stuff) Sir John Harvey-Jones was the one-time chairman of ICI who said he went into business because he saw it as a more effective way to make a difference in the world. I don't think doing cool stuff is incompatible with influencing political decision-making. I dare-say, if you can afford to purchase a few politicians (which is what is really wrong with the system) you could make plenty of changes.