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>because the software infrastructure for measuring that doesn't exist (though I suppose someone could write it); What the hell are you talking about? The ender

>because the software infrastructure for measuring that doesn't exist (though I suppose someone could write it); What the hell are you talking about? The endermen in minecraft change behavior based on whether you are looking at them or not, and minecraft has hardly a bastion of bleeding edge game engine technology. The difference between making an enderman attack if you look at it for more then 2 seconds and firing a metric if you look at a coke bottle for more than two seconds is pretty minimal. A metric tool that sends data on how long you keep certain objects within the center of your FOV can be backed with off the shelf free software[1]. The infrastructure is commonplace, well tested and used daily for a myriad of metric related tasks all over the world. [1] http://grafana.org/ http://grafana.org/

wilg 11y ago
If the software infrastructure does exist in Minecraft as you say, why isn't anyone mad about it potentially doing exactly what you describe with the actual product placements actually present in Minecraft? (https://store.xbox.com/en-US/Xbox-One/dlc/Minecraft-Xbox-One-Edition/582e7bcc-11bc-4702-ab1b-b31566f8e327 https://store.xbox.com/en-US/Xbox-One/dlc/Minecraft-Xbox-One...) The reason nobody is mad is because there is no evidence anything shady is going on there. Just like in this case with Oculus. It's possible for anyone to track pretty much any metric in any software and then analyze it. So saying it's possible doesn't really mean much.
- pdkl95 11y ago
  > regularly sends updates back to Facebook’s servers. That IS evidence of something shady going on. A display device does not need to send data over the network. This is already spyware. And no, the endermen in Minecraft do not send data back to Mojang when they detect you looking at them. That was obviously a an example of how someone could exploit head tracking data; it would still require exchanging data with Facebook... which the article claims OVRServer_x64.exe does.
assocguilt 11y ago
Still waiting for you to admit you were wrong. What's wrong with people like you who cannot admit they were wrong about something?

wilg 11y ago

If the software infrastructure does exist in Minecraft as you say, why isn't anyone mad about it potentially doing exactly what you describe with the actual product placements actually present in Minecraft? (https://store.xbox.com/en-US/Xbox-One/dlc/Minecraft-Xbox-One-Edition/582e7bcc-11bc-4702-ab1b-b31566f8e327 https://store.xbox.com/en-US/Xbox-One/dlc/Minecraft-Xbox-One...) The reason nobody is mad is because there is no evidence anything shady is going on there. Just like in this case with Oculus. It's possible for anyone to track pretty much any metric in any software and then analyze it. So saying it's possible doesn't really mean much.

pdkl95 11y ago
> regularly sends updates back to Facebook’s servers. That IS evidence of something shady going on. A display device does not need to send data over the network. This is already spyware. And no, the endermen in Minecraft do not send data back to Mojang when they detect you looking at them. That was obviously a an example of how someone could exploit head tracking data; it would still require exchanging data with Facebook... which the article claims OVRServer_x64.exe does.

assocguilt 11y ago

Still waiting for you to admit you were wrong. What's wrong with people like you who cannot admit they were wrong about something?