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Off topic rant about Svbtle: While browsing the article, I hovered my mouse over something, which told me to hold still, and then suddenly it gave the article a

Off topic rant about Svbtle: While browsing the article, I hovered my mouse over something, which told me to hold still, and then suddenly it gave the article an irreversible upvote, which I certainly never intended to give. Now that poor author thinks another person liked the article. Who knows, maybe all previous 12 upvotes were the same situation? Can we go back to Web 1.0 please? Everything was simple, everything worked, everything was fast. Or at least can we compromise and have a few reasonable design choices from Web 2.0 and Web 3.0 merged back in with Web 1.0, and just go with that? The current Web is just too broken, but there's nowhere to file a bug report.

dpark 11y ago
DCurtis undoubtedly thinks this is extremely clever. There was criticism over this the instance Svbtle was announced, but it's persisted. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3742654 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3742654 I believe if you hover over it again it reverses the behavior, but I'm not certain. Regardless, it's not a good interaction paradigm. Edit: It's not reversible. I thought I'd managed to undo one before, but I guess not.
ebbv 11y ago
Web 1.0 had lots of badly designed UX as well. Just because something's bad doesn't mean it's because of "Web 3.0". People are always going to make bad UX regardless of the paradigm they're working in.
- meddlepal 11y ago
  I just want simple text, plain backgrounds and links. I'm tired of web designers and there clever snowflake styling and javascript.
  - ebbv 11y ago
    Well the reality is that's never going to happen. The web isn't going to go backwards any more than cars are going to go backwards (however much I'd like that). So the best you can do is strip away the stuff you don't like: http://lynx.browser.org http://lynx.browser.org
    - stcredzero 11y ago
      Actually, we should encourage programmer hubris. We need something to be the moral equivalent of "shovelware" so the next batch of startups can be a "breath of fresh air" by getting rid of it.
talles 11y ago
Maybe triggering an action just by hovering was a bad idea (what about who's on mobile by the way?), but don't you think that you're overreacting a bit?
Hurtak 11y ago
Also, when I clear localStorage, I can vote again.
- deleted 11y ago
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albasha 11y ago
The page clearly shows the circle is for kudos. Not sure how you got confused.
krapp 11y ago
>Can we go back to Web 1.0 please? Everything was simple, everything worked, everything was fast. No. Software is allowed to evolve, even if you don't like it. >Or at least can we compromise and have a few reasonable design choices from Web 2.0 and Web 3.0 merged back in with Web 1.0, and just go with that? No. People are allowed to make their own decisions about how to design and build their sites, and they have the freedom to make decisions you disagree with. >The current Web is just too broken, but there's nowhere to file a bug report. It's broken for you, but it's extremely entitled of you to declare it broken for everyone. Far, far more people would consider "revert to Web 1.0" to be a broken experience, and the web belongs as much to them as it does to you.
- stcredzero 11y ago
  > >Can we go back to Web 1.0 please? Everything was simple, everything worked, everything was fast. > No. Software is allowed to evolve, even if you don't like it. Translation: Programmer Hubris is a constant.
  - krapp 11y ago
    Perhaps. But if it means the internet brings me a far richer set of experiences and possibilities than simple text and images can allow then I'm not going to complain about it.

dpark 11y ago

DCurtis undoubtedly thinks this is extremely clever. There was criticism over this the instance Svbtle was announced, but it's persisted. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3742654 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3742654 I believe if you hover over it again it reverses the behavior, but I'm not certain. Regardless, it's not a good interaction paradigm. Edit: It's not reversible. I thought I'd managed to undo one before, but I guess not.

ebbv 11y ago

Web 1.0 had lots of badly designed UX as well. Just because something's bad doesn't mean it's because of "Web 3.0". People are always going to make bad UX regardless of the paradigm they're working in.

meddlepal 11y ago
I just want simple text, plain backgrounds and links. I'm tired of web designers and there clever snowflake styling and javascript.
- ebbv 11y ago
  Well the reality is that's never going to happen. The web isn't going to go backwards any more than cars are going to go backwards (however much I'd like that). So the best you can do is strip away the stuff you don't like: http://lynx.browser.org http://lynx.browser.org
  - stcredzero 11y ago
    Actually, we should encourage programmer hubris. We need something to be the moral equivalent of "shovelware" so the next batch of startups can be a "breath of fresh air" by getting rid of it.

talles 11y ago

Maybe triggering an action just by hovering was a bad idea (what about who's on mobile by the way?), but don't you think that you're overreacting a bit?

Hurtak 11y ago

Also, when I clear localStorage, I can vote again.

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albasha 11y ago

The page clearly shows the circle is for kudos. Not sure how you got confused.

krapp 11y ago

>Can we go back to Web 1.0 please? Everything was simple, everything worked, everything was fast. No. Software is allowed to evolve, even if you don't like it. >Or at least can we compromise and have a few reasonable design choices from Web 2.0 and Web 3.0 merged back in with Web 1.0, and just go with that? No. People are allowed to make their own decisions about how to design and build their sites, and they have the freedom to make decisions you disagree with. >The current Web is just too broken, but there's nowhere to file a bug report. It's broken for you, but it's extremely entitled of you to declare it broken for everyone. Far, far more people would consider "revert to Web 1.0" to be a broken experience, and the web belongs as much to them as it does to you.

stcredzero 11y ago
> >Can we go back to Web 1.0 please? Everything was simple, everything worked, everything was fast. > No. Software is allowed to evolve, even if you don't like it. Translation: Programmer Hubris is a constant.
- krapp 11y ago
  Perhaps. But if it means the internet brings me a far richer set of experiences and possibilities than simple text and images can allow then I'm not going to complain about it.