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Actually, I think the real problem is the idea that networks are responsible for policing their users, rather than the idea that servers should be responsible f
by zeveb 11y ago
Actually, I think the real problem is the idea that networks are responsible for policing their users, rather than the idea that servers should be responsible for policing their clients. The former is what people want (because it's easy: blame an IP, ban it, be done), but the latter is the reality.
CloudFlare's CAPTCHAs are an attempt to deal with that reality, but they're heavy-handed. Worse, they're at the wrong level: the protected site may have already verified that the user is legitimate, but CloudFlare imposes its block when the user's source IP changes again.
CAPTCHAs belong at the application layer, not the transport layer.
- drvdevd 11y agoYou've made one of the most compelling points I've seen in this discussion so far. Really - why mix an application security mechanism into the transport layer? DDoS attacks will happen whether Tor is blocked or not. Add to this some other interesting points I've read here regarding: IPv4 exhaustion, NAT and IPv6 growth. All signs seem to point to the need for an application level solution.