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You'd be able to make a blog post without annotations accusing you of disseminating misinformation and suppressing free thought, for one. I think you're severe

by sehr 11y ago

You'd be able to make a blog post without annotations accusing you of disseminating misinformation and suppressing free thought, for one. I think you're severely overrating the quality of Internet comments too, and with these annotations there isn't even a report feature available to help clean them up. Genius.

MaxfordAndSons 11y ago
> I think you're severely overrating the quality of Internet comments Maybe so, but I think perhaps you're underrating the desire by state and corporate actors for tools to suppress free discourse. > there isn't even a report feature available No, there definitely is a "Report Abuse" button. But, there clearly isn't much in the way of a global reputation/meta-moderation system, except what's carried over from the original Genius site, which doesn't exactly share the same editorial values as an (my) ideal annotation platform. The managing editor being from Gawker and going around posting snarky/superficially critical comments on serious pieces of writing is pretty emblematic of this. Which is a shame. Since it's related, and I'm a fan of their work, here's another annotation platform, https://hypothes.is/ https://hypothes.is/, whose developers seem much more serious about creating a robust reputation system.
- runandcode 11y ago
  The Report Abuse button seems like it was just recently added, in the past day. It was not present when the tool was originally released.
  - MaxfordAndSons 11y ago
    I'll take your word for it; it's pretty shocking that it wasn't there from day one. As I've written elsewhere, it seems like Genius's vision of universal annotations is not really lined up with the/my/some tech folks platonic ideal of it - Genius seems to want to extend RapGenius to the rest of the web to enable a mix of both factual and editorial commentary, whereas the aforementioned ideal would be much more focused on fact checking, not just providing a universal commenting layer. It's clearly a grayer issue than I first comprehended when writing my initial response to your work; I apologize for my strongly negative tone.

by sehr 11y ago

MaxfordAndSons 11y ago

> I think you're severely overrating the quality of Internet comments Maybe so, but I think perhaps you're underrating the desire by state and corporate actors for tools to suppress free discourse. > there isn't even a report feature available No, there definitely is a "Report Abuse" button. But, there clearly isn't much in the way of a global reputation/meta-moderation system, except what's carried over from the original Genius site, which doesn't exactly share the same editorial values as an (my) ideal annotation platform. The managing editor being from Gawker and going around posting snarky/superficially critical comments on serious pieces of writing is pretty emblematic of this. Which is a shame. Since it's related, and I'm a fan of their work, here's another annotation platform, https://hypothes.is/ https://hypothes.is/, whose developers seem much more serious about creating a robust reputation system.

runandcode 11y ago
The Report Abuse button seems like it was just recently added, in the past day. It was not present when the tool was originally released.
- MaxfordAndSons 11y ago
  I'll take your word for it; it's pretty shocking that it wasn't there from day one. As I've written elsewhere, it seems like Genius's vision of universal annotations is not really lined up with the/my/some tech folks platonic ideal of it - Genius seems to want to extend RapGenius to the rest of the web to enable a mix of both factual and editorial commentary, whereas the aforementioned ideal would be much more focused on fact checking, not just providing a universal commenting layer. It's clearly a grayer issue than I first comprehended when writing my initial response to your work; I apologize for my strongly negative tone.