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This type of stuff makes me wonder when humanity will treat ads just like we treat cigarettes today.

by ttn 11y ago

javajosh 11y ago
"I only look at ads when I'm drunk."
- jmarc 11y ago
  "I only look at ads when I'm in a social setting"
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s_m_t 11y ago
That is a difficult problem to solve. How do you differentiate between genuine (even if self-interested) self expression and 'advertisement'? If I think I make really muffins and I want everyone to know is that advertisement and is it a bad thing? Of course, I love my muffins so much that I want everyone to have them so I'm going to have to start charging, because the best way to get as many people to try them is to do it full time. And of course at some point I'm going to have to hire other people and teach them to make the muffins for me because one man can only make so many muffins. I'll probably have to incorporate and buy a muffin factory. And I'm much better with muffins than I am with words so actually the proclamations of my muffin's superiority are going to be designed by a professional. I actually don't have a way with words so I'm not sure how to wrap this up but it's a piece of my perspective either way.
- Retric 11y ago
  IMO, simply flat out preventing for profit companies from talking with non customers is probably worth it. Sure, you might end up with some edge cases, but in the end customers pay for advertising and it's often zero or even negative sum. The edge case is of course. Disease X now has a treatment! But IMO, if it's important people are going to find out other ways.
jonesb6 11y ago
When we fully understand the psychological effects of advertisements on the brain like we do the physical effects of cigarettes on the lungs. IMO a pretty long time.
dandelany 11y ago
When ads start killing 30% of the people who look at them.
- wernercd 11y ago
  When an "infection" from an ad can lead to malware, trojans, ransomware, etc... At what point does the monetary value of the damages caused by "advertising" surpass the amount of damages caused by cigs? Will that amount of damage ever be more than lung cancer and lost lives? Who knows... but ads aren't just annoying. They are dangerous. Just ask the hospitals that have had to run at limited capacity due to infections. (that infection was due to a tainted email... but it could have easily been from a drive-by-ad-malware... ala 30-after-30 malware: http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/08/you-say-advertising-i-say-block-that-malware/ http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/08/you-say-advertising-i-say... ). And it's only a matter of time until one infection causes a death... Then expand that to our increasingly connected cars and houses...
  - Raphmedia 11y ago
    Ads are malware to the mind. I don't want to eat fast-food, but they will use shiny pictures, bright colors, reverse psychology, "everyone else eat burgers" tactics, etc. to make me want it. They are little squares of manipulation.
    - dave2000 11y ago
      Ah, but not everyone eats fast food, so there must be a way to resist them.
      - Raphmedia 11y ago
        Willpower. Your willpower is low when you are tired or in an advanced state of mind. Take a look at decision fatigue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_fatigue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_fatigue "Decision fatigue can influence irrational impulse purchases at supermarkets. During a trip to the supermarket, trade-off decisions regarding prices and promotions can produce decision fatigue, hence by the time the shopper reaches the cash register, less willpower remains to resist impulse purchases of candy and sugared items." We are bombarded with ads, which we discard, but every time we discard one, it tires us.
supergreg 11y ago
Some are addicted to them while others don't get the point?

This type of stuff makes me wonder when humanity will treat ads just like we treat cigarettes today.

by ttn 11y ago

This type of stuff makes me wonder when humanity will treat ads just like we treat cigarettes today.

javajosh 11y ago

"I only look at ads when I'm drunk."

jmarc 11y ago
"I only look at ads when I'm in a social setting"

deleted 11y ago

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s_m_t 11y ago

That is a difficult problem to solve. How do you differentiate between genuine (even if self-interested) self expression and 'advertisement'? If I think I make really muffins and I want everyone to know is that advertisement and is it a bad thing? Of course, I love my muffins so much that I want everyone to have them so I'm going to have to start charging, because the best way to get as many people to try them is to do it full time. And of course at some point I'm going to have to hire other people and teach them to make the muffins for me because one man can only make so many muffins. I'll probably have to incorporate and buy a muffin factory. And I'm much better with muffins than I am with words so actually the proclamations of my muffin's superiority are going to be designed by a professional. I actually don't have a way with words so I'm not sure how to wrap this up but it's a piece of my perspective either way.

Retric 11y ago
IMO, simply flat out preventing for profit companies from talking with non customers is probably worth it. Sure, you might end up with some edge cases, but in the end customers pay for advertising and it's often zero or even negative sum. The edge case is of course. Disease X now has a treatment! But IMO, if it's important people are going to find out other ways.

jonesb6 11y ago

When we fully understand the psychological effects of advertisements on the brain like we do the physical effects of cigarettes on the lungs. IMO a pretty long time.

dandelany 11y ago

When ads start killing 30% of the people who look at them.

wernercd 11y ago
When an "infection" from an ad can lead to malware, trojans, ransomware, etc... At what point does the monetary value of the damages caused by "advertising" surpass the amount of damages caused by cigs? Will that amount of damage ever be more than lung cancer and lost lives? Who knows... but ads aren't just annoying. They are dangerous. Just ask the hospitals that have had to run at limited capacity due to infections. (that infection was due to a tainted email... but it could have easily been from a drive-by-ad-malware... ala 30-after-30 malware: http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/08/you-say-advertising-i-say-block-that-malware/ http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/08/you-say-advertising-i-say... ). And it's only a matter of time until one infection causes a death... Then expand that to our increasingly connected cars and houses...
- Raphmedia 11y ago
  Ads are malware to the mind. I don't want to eat fast-food, but they will use shiny pictures, bright colors, reverse psychology, "everyone else eat burgers" tactics, etc. to make me want it. They are little squares of manipulation.
  - dave2000 11y ago
    Ah, but not everyone eats fast food, so there must be a way to resist them.
    - Raphmedia 11y ago
      Willpower. Your willpower is low when you are tired or in an advanced state of mind. Take a look at decision fatigue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_fatigue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_fatigue "Decision fatigue can influence irrational impulse purchases at supermarkets. During a trip to the supermarket, trade-off decisions regarding prices and promotions can produce decision fatigue, hence by the time the shopper reaches the cash register, less willpower remains to resist impulse purchases of candy and sugared items." We are bombarded with ads, which we discard, but every time we discard one, it tires us.

supergreg 11y ago

Some are addicted to them while others don't get the point?