I'm self taught too since maybe middle school, and did take C and C++ for giggles. I never got a CS degree though, since the math really was difficult. I consid

I'm self taught too since maybe middle school, and did take C and C++ for giggles. I never got a CS degree though, since the math really was difficult. I consider my self a decent programmer though. It's amazing to me the strong link between engineering and programming. So much so that every job I've ever seen posted has included it as a requirement. It's a shame really