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How about "you took a job that requires you to be in the office at 7am. So, be in the office at 7am." Being an adult implies that your take care of your respon

by pigpaws 11y ago

How about "you took a job that requires you to be in the office at 7am. So, be in the office at 7am." Being an adult implies that your take care of your responsibilities. You pay your bills, and you show up to class/work on time, etc... If you schedule a BioChem class that starts at 7am, don't complain when it starts at 7am. If you still don't understand this context, please stop now. As a student, your world revolves around the schedule of your professor(s) Not your social life. In most professions from the NBA to IT, as an employee, your schedule revolves around that of your employer Not your social life. And most times, if you own your own business, your schedule revolves around the schedule of your clients, at this point, you don't have a social life. Some people get lucky and either don't need to be confined to a schedule or have an open one. Great! but for the rest that don't, either stop complaining about the schedule of the job/class/career path that YOU CHOSE or get another one. It really is that simple.

FussyZeus 11y ago
Firstly, I've been steadily employed for 8+ years so please stop talking like I'm some stupid child. 6 of those 8 were during college when I attended classes during the daytime and worked third shift to support myself, I am well versed in the concept of "showing up when required" and happily did so because there was a rational explanation for those hours. Secondly, I am not nor have I ever brought up students. Schooling is an entirely different ball game, you're not being paid to be there, you're paying to be there, you set a schedule more or less to your own preferences and so have less of a reason to be upset about it, and classes are not often the length of a regular job shift, so the timing isn't nearly as critical. I could go on, this is apples and oranges and I have no idea why you brought it up. Thirdly, even though I never brought up social lives I'll say this: If my priority is to have time to spend with my wife, my friends, or my family, as long as it does not affect my job performance if I set my hours to suit those preferences it's exactly NONE of your business what those preferences are. Finally, I'm not complaining about my schedule, but exactly the opposite and what I said from the top was that if a given company doesn't offer a flexible schedule that I wouldn't work there. Work on your reading comprehension.
- pigpaws 11y ago
  LOL - Did I touch a nerve there, Nancy? You're taking this way too personal. I am referring to people in general. I don't care what you do as an individual. Actually, you what you said re: flexibility was in regards to the business having to have it, yet did not mention the employee. I countered with the fact that in general an employee's (work) schedule revolves around that of the business - not vice-versa. Also that an employee's primary concern is to remain employed, and to do that, they must do what the business requires of them (that they agreed to when they took the job). Also, you said NOTHING about whether or not you'd work for them or not - it wasn't even implied. Your statement was "But to say that the employee can have no flexibility at all and MUST be in the office, with the other employees, at this specific time because we said so? My response to that is why?" I'm sorry, you said something about comprehension, so I decided to break down the conversation for you.
  - dang 11y ago
    Your comments in this thread have been breaking the HN guidelines badly, by calling names, being uncivil, and conducting a flamewar. We ban accounts that do these things, so please re-read the rules and stop doing these things. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html
    - pigpaws 11y ago
      You don't honestly expect me not to defend myself, do you? Your definition of "flamewar" is vastly different than that of the rest of the interweb.
      - dang 11y ago
        We expect you to follow the site guidelines and remain civil.
- dang 11y ago
  > Work on your reading comprehension. Please don't be personally rude in HN comments, even when someone else is breaking the rules and being provocative. That just makes the thread still worse.
eschutte2 11y ago
I remember my physics professor telling us, "I've been begging them not to schedule this class so early, because we're losing the best people from the major." I think that was a 9:30 class or something.

by pigpaws 11y ago

FussyZeus 11y ago

Firstly, I've been steadily employed for 8+ years so please stop talking like I'm some stupid child. 6 of those 8 were during college when I attended classes during the daytime and worked third shift to support myself, I am well versed in the concept of "showing up when required" and happily did so because there was a rational explanation for those hours. Secondly, I am not nor have I ever brought up students. Schooling is an entirely different ball game, you're not being paid to be there, you're paying to be there, you set a schedule more or less to your own preferences and so have less of a reason to be upset about it, and classes are not often the length of a regular job shift, so the timing isn't nearly as critical. I could go on, this is apples and oranges and I have no idea why you brought it up. Thirdly, even though I never brought up social lives I'll say this: If my priority is to have time to spend with my wife, my friends, or my family, as long as it does not affect my job performance if I set my hours to suit those preferences it's exactly NONE of your business what those preferences are. Finally, I'm not complaining about my schedule, but exactly the opposite and what I said from the top was that if a given company doesn't offer a flexible schedule that I wouldn't work there. Work on your reading comprehension.

pigpaws 11y ago
LOL - Did I touch a nerve there, Nancy? You're taking this way too personal. I am referring to people in general. I don't care what you do as an individual. Actually, you what you said re: flexibility was in regards to the business having to have it, yet did not mention the employee. I countered with the fact that in general an employee's (work) schedule revolves around that of the business - not vice-versa. Also that an employee's primary concern is to remain employed, and to do that, they must do what the business requires of them (that they agreed to when they took the job). Also, you said NOTHING about whether or not you'd work for them or not - it wasn't even implied. Your statement was "But to say that the employee can have no flexibility at all and MUST be in the office, with the other employees, at this specific time because we said so? My response to that is why?" I'm sorry, you said something about comprehension, so I decided to break down the conversation for you.
- dang 11y ago
  Your comments in this thread have been breaking the HN guidelines badly, by calling names, being uncivil, and conducting a flamewar. We ban accounts that do these things, so please re-read the rules and stop doing these things. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html
  - pigpaws 11y ago
    You don't honestly expect me not to defend myself, do you? Your definition of "flamewar" is vastly different than that of the rest of the interweb.
    - dang 11y ago
      We expect you to follow the site guidelines and remain civil.
dang 11y ago
> Work on your reading comprehension. Please don't be personally rude in HN comments, even when someone else is breaking the rules and being provocative. That just makes the thread still worse.

eschutte2 11y ago

I remember my physics professor telling us, "I've been begging them not to schedule this class so early, because we're losing the best people from the major." I think that was a 9:30 class or something.