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Canada does not have personal residence mortgage deductibility and was riding a commodities boom at the time. Speaking of the popular "austerity ruins the econ

Canada does not have personal residence mortgage deductibility and was riding a commodities boom at the time. Speaking of the popular "austerity ruins the economy", Canada ran a budget surplus during the crisis, enabling them to weather the financial crisis quite well. Keeping an eye on the accounting books is always a good idea.

RobertoG 11y ago
OK, I propose we change the popular "austerity ruins the economy" to the most precise "austerity ruins an economy, if it's not ridding a commodities boom at the time, and you don't have a private debt grow for compensating what the government is not spending."
cmrdporcupine 11y ago
We did not run a budget surplus during the crisis. Far from it. There was extensive stimulus spending that led to very high deficits during that period. We had a budget surplus in the decade prior to the crisis, but not right before, and once the Harper gov't took power it slashed revenue through a bunch of tax cuts and then once the crisis hit the opposition demanded stimulus spending or it would bring the gov't down (minority parliament at the time). And while Canada was "riding a commodity boom" at the time this hardly helped anybody east of Saskatchewan or west of Alberta. You could argue it helped their investments but you'd also be wrong, in 2008 the stock market tumbled the same here as everyone else, including energy stocks.
- cmrdporcupine 11y ago
  And I should add that housing prices did dip briefly immediately following the crash in the US. Just not nearly as bad and they almost immediately recovered.
- tosseraccount 11y ago
  http://www.tradingeconomics.com/canada/government-budget http://www.tradingeconomics.com/canada/government-budget According to this link, the Canada Federal Budget appears to have been in surplus during 2007-2008 crisis. Deficits came later. Their previous fiscal prudence mitigated the problems that struck Italy, Greece and the United States.
  - cmrdporcupine 11y ago
    The stimulus budget was passed in 2009, the bulk of the spending came through in 2010, and the graph you linked to shows that. Cutting your tax revenue isn't fiscal prudence. It's letting ideology triumph over reality. Harper never met a surplus he didn't throw away.

RobertoG 11y ago

OK, I propose we change the popular "austerity ruins the economy" to the most precise "austerity ruins an economy, if it's not ridding a commodities boom at the time, and you don't have a private debt grow for compensating what the government is not spending."

cmrdporcupine 11y ago

We did not run a budget surplus during the crisis. Far from it. There was extensive stimulus spending that led to very high deficits during that period. We had a budget surplus in the decade prior to the crisis, but not right before, and once the Harper gov't took power it slashed revenue through a bunch of tax cuts and then once the crisis hit the opposition demanded stimulus spending or it would bring the gov't down (minority parliament at the time). And while Canada was "riding a commodity boom" at the time this hardly helped anybody east of Saskatchewan or west of Alberta. You could argue it helped their investments but you'd also be wrong, in 2008 the stock market tumbled the same here as everyone else, including energy stocks.

cmrdporcupine 11y ago
And I should add that housing prices did dip briefly immediately following the crash in the US. Just not nearly as bad and they almost immediately recovered.
tosseraccount 11y ago
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/canada/government-budget http://www.tradingeconomics.com/canada/government-budget According to this link, the Canada Federal Budget appears to have been in surplus during 2007-2008 crisis. Deficits came later. Their previous fiscal prudence mitigated the problems that struck Italy, Greece and the United States.
- cmrdporcupine 11y ago
  The stimulus budget was passed in 2009, the bulk of the spending came through in 2010, and the graph you linked to shows that. Cutting your tax revenue isn't fiscal prudence. It's letting ideology triumph over reality. Harper never met a surplus he didn't throw away.