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The exception list now contains only four websites that offer a very good experience to their users with ads on. They say that now, but what about a year from

The exception list now contains only four websites that offer a very good experience to their users with ads on. They say that now, but what about a year from now? Look at the scandal around the original Adblock extension. Everyone wants to maintain their own whitelist. I suppose this is the new monetization strategy? Pay us to whitelist you?

Mithaldu 11y ago
I remember when they wrote a great URL blocker which was blazingly fast and very easy for the user to edit and came with zero opinions. It was built in the browser's engine core, had some UI elements to help add or remove things quickly, but at the end of the day was just a text file in your profile. I remember it because it's what Opera 12 has, which is still my main browser to this day. Edit: !!! As https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11397230 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11397230 points out, this new ad blocker is even worse than anyone could think: It has literally no user interaction, except from adding websites to a whitelist. Other than the whitelist it has exactly two settings: On / Off If it's blocking something on a website where you don't want it to block, but also want to block ads? Tough luck. If you're on a website where it's failing to block something you want blocked? Tough luck. If you want to block something that's not an ad? Tough luck. It's depressing how far Opera ASA has fallen.
- ikeboy 11y ago
  What about security? Checking Wikipedia says there's only been two updates since 2013.
  - Mithaldu 11y ago
    CVE has no known issues for Opera 12.18 and they recently upgraded the SSL ciphers to conform to modern standards.
jo909 11y ago
What URLs/domains are on this exception list exactly? Couldn't find it anywhere. Edit: had to install Opera to find out, this is the list: [*.]baidu.com [*.]facebook.com [*.]google.com [*.]yandex.com
- batat 11y ago
  It seems to be platform- and/or location-specific. On Windows I have much longer list, with washingtonpost.com, aliexpress.com etc.
  - jo909 11y ago
    This is from a fresh install (never had any Opera version on this VM) on Windows 10, downloaded from https://download1.operacdn.com/pub/opera-developer/37.0.2171.0/win/Opera_Developer_37.0.2171.0_Setup.exe https://download1.operacdn.com/pub/opera-developer/37.0.2171...
    - batat 11y ago
      Got this from developer update channel on Windows 7 http://i.imgur.com/gNRtE2c.png http://i.imgur.com/gNRtE2c.png

Mithaldu 11y ago

I remember when they wrote a great URL blocker which was blazingly fast and very easy for the user to edit and came with zero opinions. It was built in the browser's engine core, had some UI elements to help add or remove things quickly, but at the end of the day was just a text file in your profile. I remember it because it's what Opera 12 has, which is still my main browser to this day. Edit: !!! As https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11397230 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11397230 points out, this new ad blocker is even worse than anyone could think: It has literally no user interaction, except from adding websites to a whitelist. Other than the whitelist it has exactly two settings: On / Off If it's blocking something on a website where you don't want it to block, but also want to block ads? Tough luck. If you're on a website where it's failing to block something you want blocked? Tough luck. If you want to block something that's not an ad? Tough luck. It's depressing how far Opera ASA has fallen.

ikeboy 11y ago
What about security? Checking Wikipedia says there's only been two updates since 2013.
- Mithaldu 11y ago
  CVE has no known issues for Opera 12.18 and they recently upgraded the SSL ciphers to conform to modern standards.

jo909 11y ago

What URLs/domains are on this exception list exactly? Couldn't find it anywhere. Edit: had to install Opera to find out, this is the list: [*.]baidu.com [*.]facebook.com [*.]google.com [*.]yandex.com

batat 11y ago
It seems to be platform- and/or location-specific. On Windows I have much longer list, with washingtonpost.com, aliexpress.com etc.
- jo909 11y ago
  This is from a fresh install (never had any Opera version on this VM) on Windows 10, downloaded from https://download1.operacdn.com/pub/opera-developer/37.0.2171.0/win/Opera_Developer_37.0.2171.0_Setup.exe https://download1.operacdn.com/pub/opera-developer/37.0.2171...
  - batat 11y ago
    Got this from developer update channel on Windows 7 http://i.imgur.com/gNRtE2c.png http://i.imgur.com/gNRtE2c.png