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Of course it's possible that by 2025 (barring disaster) EVs will be so much better than fossil fuel powered cars that no-one would buy anything else as a new ca

by phaemon 11y ago

Of course it's possible that by 2025 (barring disaster) EVs will be so much better than fossil fuel powered cars that no-one would buy anything else as a new car. There will still be the second-hand market of course.

dogma1138 11y ago
It's also Europe from what I heard it not uncommon to go to Germany or France to buy a car there with slightly cheaper taxes.
- lgieron 11y ago
  My guess is that they'd forbid registration of new petrol/diesel cars, not just sales.
  - dogma1138 11y ago
    Don't think that will fly with EU regulations, that means that EU residents can't register their cars when moving to the Netherlands.
    - yread 11y ago
      If you work in the Netherlands you have to register your car (and pay the road tax and it can be tens of thousands of euros based on CO2 and list price) within 6 months I believe.
      - dogma1138 11y ago
        Road tax and registration tax in Netherlands are 2 separate things iirc.
    - lgieron 11y ago
      In my concept, that would regard new cars only (i.e. never registered before). When you're moving to the Netherlands, your car is already registered in the country you're moving out of.
      - dogma1138 11y ago
        Could be, still don't see this working out, this seems like an unrealistic goal and unrealistic goals tend to produce lesser results than realistic ones. No petrol cars meaning people won't be able to buy a Porsche, what about work vehicles - vans, pickups, trucks? they'll probably be exempt which will create loopholes. By 2025 I don't see EV's gaining more than 25% of the market in Europe on average, petrol ban can just create a huge backlash and waste money and political capital that could be used to actually get to a higher goal than the projected average say 25% by focusing on education and incentives such as subsidies and direct and tax benefits which is pretty much what Norway did.
        lgieron 11y ago
        Oh yeah, I 100% agree that the policy is in general misguided and borderline crackpot.

by phaemon 11y ago

dogma1138 11y ago

It's also Europe from what I heard it not uncommon to go to Germany or France to buy a car there with slightly cheaper taxes.

lgieron 11y ago
My guess is that they'd forbid registration of new petrol/diesel cars, not just sales.
- dogma1138 11y ago
  Don't think that will fly with EU regulations, that means that EU residents can't register their cars when moving to the Netherlands.
  - yread 11y ago
    If you work in the Netherlands you have to register your car (and pay the road tax and it can be tens of thousands of euros based on CO2 and list price) within 6 months I believe.
    - dogma1138 11y ago
      Road tax and registration tax in Netherlands are 2 separate things iirc.
  - lgieron 11y ago
    In my concept, that would regard new cars only (i.e. never registered before). When you're moving to the Netherlands, your car is already registered in the country you're moving out of.
    - dogma1138 11y ago
      Could be, still don't see this working out, this seems like an unrealistic goal and unrealistic goals tend to produce lesser results than realistic ones. No petrol cars meaning people won't be able to buy a Porsche, what about work vehicles - vans, pickups, trucks? they'll probably be exempt which will create loopholes. By 2025 I don't see EV's gaining more than 25% of the market in Europe on average, petrol ban can just create a huge backlash and waste money and political capital that could be used to actually get to a higher goal than the projected average say 25% by focusing on education and incentives such as subsidies and direct and tax benefits which is pretty much what Norway did.
      - lgieron 11y ago
        Oh yeah, I 100% agree that the policy is in general misguided and borderline crackpot.