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Outer Space Treaty
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- f_allwein 11y ago> The treaty explicitly forbids any government from claiming a celestial resource such as the Moon or a planet, claiming that they are the common heritage of mankind. Interesting that this applies in outer space, but not on Earth...
- bliti 11y agoUntil somebody manages to set up a long term camp on the Moon. It's the nature of humanity.
- enobrev 11y agoI doubt the Moon-Colony Lobby will have much pull with local governments.
- Mikeb85 11y ago> Interesting that this applies in outer space, but not on Earth... To be fair, this also applies to Antarctica. And of course, the rest of the world was already claimed by the time we truly had a 'globalized' world.
- ericj5 11y agoAlso interesting that this really only prevents governments from claiming resources. What about companies or people?
- manmeet 11y agoI would imagine that companies and people would also be prohibited from making these claims. But I do believe that is going to be ineffective for the future. Progress would be very slow if there is nothing to claim on Mars, or another celestial body for that manner. A very interesting discussion, as I do see this treaty changing in the future, but whether it will be country oriented or market oriented will be the big question that defines humanity's voyage outside earth
- barney54 11y agoThe Moon Treaty explicitly forbade private property on the moon, but by implication it means that private property is still possible under the Outer Space Treaty. Also, the United States did not ratify the Moon Treaty. It is in force for the 13 signatory nations, but none are space powers. More: http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/moon-mars/a3358/4264325/ http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/moon-mars/a3358/426432... http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1025529 http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1025529
- thushan 11y agoUndoubtedly this will lead to Space Pirates of the Mark Watney (The Martian) kind: “I’ve been thinking about laws on Mars. There’s an international treaty saying that no country can lay claim to anything that’s not on Earth. By another treaty if you’re not in any country’s territory, maritime law aplies. So Mars is international waters. Now, NASA is an American non-military organization, it owns the Hab. But the second I walk outside I’m in international waters. So Here’s the cool part. I’m about to leave for the Schiaparelli Crater where I’m going to commandeer the Ares IV lander. Nobody explicitly gave me permission to do this, and they can’t until on board the Ares IV. So I’m going to be taking a craft over in international waters without permission, which by definition… makes me a pirate. Mark Watney: Space Pirate.”
- Tsagadai 11y agoIt is unlikely this would ever be enforceable once there are permanent settlements on the moon or elsewhere as they could always secede from the UN and any country they were once involved with. Once they claimed independence, weaponizing orbital equipment would be the only real way to displace them (which would also violate the treaty). It is more likely to end up like The Expanse series where Mars and then the other planets claim independence from Earth.
- basicplus2 11y agoGiven that no one has real "people based" access to anything beyond earth, I find it incredibly egotistical to have a space treaty. I think perhaps it is driven more from "If anyone gets there before me I still want a piece of it if they get there before me" I have no doubt that once a nation, Company, top 1% elite get somewhere out there in space, their language will change and they will say it belongs to them. Look at Antartica ... it has already been divided up into regions more or less belonging to different nations despite the retoric.
- teslaberry 11y agoi would love to see an action movie where high technology billionaire squatters on the moon are nuked by a soveriegn nation for disobeying the terms for an 'international space treaty' that was created by soveriegn nations themselves UNABLE to colonize the moon with their old government technology. if you cannot join em or regulate'm , nuke em . that would make a great action sci fi movie. worlds billionaire moon colonizers versus icbm nuclear capable nations i.e. the ameri-china russindian british alliance.