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Or you could just use ubuntu... It amazes me that people will rag on linux because its "hard" and then build these elaborate Rube-Goldberg machines to avoid th

Or you could just use ubuntu... It amazes me that people will rag on linux because its "hard" and then build these elaborate Rube-Goldberg machines to avoid the most obvious solution.

moron4hire 11y ago
Are those the same people? I don't think those are the same people.
brianwawok 11y ago
Ubuntu being has hard nothing to do with why I don't use it as a desktop or laptop environment (but in fact I use for every server I touch if at all possible)
coldtea 11y ago
>It amazes me that people will rag on linux because its "hard" and then build these elaborate Rube-Goldberg machines to avoid the most obvious solution. It amazes that people don't understand that one's usage patterns might be different, so "just use Ubuntu" wouldn't be applicable (e.g. UNIX savvy guy who appreciates the shells and userland, but nevertheless wants to do Windows .NET development, or work with native and proprietary Windows programs the rest of the time).
- ageofwant 11y ago
  The "UNIX savvy guy" will just use Windows when he needs to, either in a VM, a Azure windows instance or his company provided laptop and call it a day. All the yakka spent on avoiding the obvious solutions to justify "usage patterns", should signal any half-aware dev that those precious patterns are broken.
  - rkangel 11y ago
    Yes, I will "just use Windows" when all the dev tools for my embedded environment are only available for Windows. And when I'm stuck on Windows for whatever reason, I'll be immensely grateful to be able to do that with a bash shell and all my normal configuration and tools.
  - coldtea 11y ago
    >The "UNIX savvy guy" will just use Windows when he needs to, either in a VM, a Azure windows instance or his company provided laptop and call it a day. Still missing the fact that he could be needing them 24/7 for his work...
eggy 11y ago
I have been running dual-boot Windows/Linux forever (Minix before Linux took over ;) ). I have purchased programs - Mathematica, Ableton Live, Clip Studio Paint, etc... that I have on Windows along with VS and .NET/F# stuff. This will make my world so much easier, since I only use Linux for the occasional program I don't want to bother compiling on Windows due to dependencies and long make files. Cygwin and MSYS2 have their issues to make this more enticing to me.
- aristidb 11y ago
  Mathematica at least has a Linux version. :-)
baq 11y ago
no i couldn't, corporate it won't let me. this will be so much better than anything else currently available.

Or you could just use ubuntu... It amazes me that people will rag on linux because its "hard" and then build these elaborate Rube-Goldberg machines to avoid the most obvious solution.

moron4hire 11y ago

Are those the same people? I don't think those are the same people.

brianwawok 11y ago

Ubuntu being has hard nothing to do with why I don't use it as a desktop or laptop environment (but in fact I use for every server I touch if at all possible)

coldtea 11y ago

>It amazes me that people will rag on linux because its "hard" and then build these elaborate Rube-Goldberg machines to avoid the most obvious solution. It amazes that people don't understand that one's usage patterns might be different, so "just use Ubuntu" wouldn't be applicable (e.g. UNIX savvy guy who appreciates the shells and userland, but nevertheless wants to do Windows .NET development, or work with native and proprietary Windows programs the rest of the time).

ageofwant 11y ago
The "UNIX savvy guy" will just use Windows when he needs to, either in a VM, a Azure windows instance or his company provided laptop and call it a day. All the yakka spent on avoiding the obvious solutions to justify "usage patterns", should signal any half-aware dev that those precious patterns are broken.
- rkangel 11y ago
  Yes, I will "just use Windows" when all the dev tools for my embedded environment are only available for Windows. And when I'm stuck on Windows for whatever reason, I'll be immensely grateful to be able to do that with a bash shell and all my normal configuration and tools.
- coldtea 11y ago
  >The "UNIX savvy guy" will just use Windows when he needs to, either in a VM, a Azure windows instance or his company provided laptop and call it a day. Still missing the fact that he could be needing them 24/7 for his work...

eggy 11y ago

I have been running dual-boot Windows/Linux forever (Minix before Linux took over ;) ). I have purchased programs - Mathematica, Ableton Live, Clip Studio Paint, etc... that I have on Windows along with VS and .NET/F# stuff. This will make my world so much easier, since I only use Linux for the occasional program I don't want to bother compiling on Windows due to dependencies and long make files. Cygwin and MSYS2 have their issues to make this more enticing to me.

aristidb 11y ago
Mathematica at least has a Linux version. :-)

baq 11y ago

no i couldn't, corporate it won't let me. this will be so much better than anything else currently available.