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> Anyone who's made it onto an Olympiad team[1] of any significant geographical scale, in any category, shouldn't have to deal with this whiteboard nonsense. O

> Anyone who's made it onto an Olympiad team[1] of any significant geographical scale, in any category, shouldn't have to deal with this whiteboard nonsense. Oh yeah? I've interviewed my fair share of self-righteous prima-donna "I shouldn't have to deal with you plebes" sorts before to know you'd better put them through MORE of this whiteboard nonsense rather than less. And if they get all huffy, you know that when they make a pile of shit, they'll be the quickest out the door to run away from it leaving those of us with work ethic behind to clean it up. Credentials mean precisely jack and shit to me. I want someone bright and humble.

bpchaps 11y ago
You sound unnecessarily angry and your interview style seems far more formal than it needs to be. Think their issue might be with you? ;)
- philovivero 11y ago
  You'd be wrong. A vast majority of people find me very personable. I'm only talking about this microcosm of human interaction.
  - kafkaesq 11y ago
    That's the thing -- lots of personable, well-adjusted people do all kind of weird things when plunked into that bizarre "microcosm" of human interaction known as the hiring process.
    - bpchaps 11y ago
      Yep, and to add - interviews are almost never as reciprocal as they should be. I've been to 20 interviews or so in the past two months and the common pattern with the worst companies is a near complete lack of reciprocal respect and almost hazing (like GP does). The best listen to what's said and evaluate the content and the character at the same time without the need to do "extra whiteboarding" to prove some...thI'm not sure what it actually proves. What does it prove? I'm really at a loss there. Another thing about those nonreciprocal interviews is that they they tend to be led by significantly less talented folk in comparison. My friend Peter might know why.... ;)
kafkaesq 11y ago
Well I don't look at Olympiad performance as credential per se -- not in the traditional sense (like admission to an elite school, say). It's only a special kind of a geek that gets drawn to these competitions during their formative years; typically the kind that doesn't give a shit about "credentials" in the usual sense. In other words, exactly the "bright and humble" type you're looking for.

bpchaps 11y ago

You sound unnecessarily angry and your interview style seems far more formal than it needs to be. Think their issue might be with you? ;)

philovivero 11y ago
You'd be wrong. A vast majority of people find me very personable. I'm only talking about this microcosm of human interaction.
- kafkaesq 11y ago
  That's the thing -- lots of personable, well-adjusted people do all kind of weird things when plunked into that bizarre "microcosm" of human interaction known as the hiring process.
  - bpchaps 11y ago
    Yep, and to add - interviews are almost never as reciprocal as they should be. I've been to 20 interviews or so in the past two months and the common pattern with the worst companies is a near complete lack of reciprocal respect and almost hazing (like GP does). The best listen to what's said and evaluate the content and the character at the same time without the need to do "extra whiteboarding" to prove some...thI'm not sure what it actually proves. What does it prove? I'm really at a loss there. Another thing about those nonreciprocal interviews is that they they tend to be led by significantly less talented folk in comparison. My friend Peter might know why.... ;)

kafkaesq 11y ago

Well I don't look at Olympiad performance as credential per se -- not in the traditional sense (like admission to an elite school, say). It's only a special kind of a geek that gets drawn to these competitions during their formative years; typically the kind that doesn't give a shit about "credentials" in the usual sense. In other words, exactly the "bright and humble" type you're looking for.