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Is this still going to be using the absolutely dreadfull conhost? Because that's the biggest shortcoming windows currently has with its interactive command line

Is this still going to be using the absolutely dreadfull conhost? Because that's the biggest shortcoming windows currently has with its interactive command line tools, cmd.exe and powershell are both usable, not great (okay, pretty bad honestly, but usable) when you don't consider the shitty terminal they force you into using.

icc97 11y ago
I agree conhost is terrible - but they have finally made some improvements in Windows 10 [1]: - Drag-to-resize - Automatic text reflowing on resize - Ctrl + X/C/V support for cut/copy/paste - Selection that does line-wrapping - Transparency - A full-screen mode [1]: http://futurice.com/blog/a-saner-windows-command-line-part-1
- homulilly 11y ago
  Ctrl+Key shortcuts aren't going to work in bash (at least not without breaking other important stuff) so I'm hoping they decide to make quickedit mode more usable someday. Unfortunately I still think this is going to be kind of a shitshow as long as they keep the black box nature of conhost. The terminal apps OSX and most linux distros ship with are fairly bare-bones too and I doubt reprogrammable 256-color mode is on microsoft's roadmap.
  - wvenable 11y ago
    "I doubt reprogrammable 256-color mode is on microsoft's roadmap..." http://www.nivot.org/blog/post/2016/02/04/Windows-10-TH2-%28v1511%29-Console-Host-Enhancements http://www.nivot.org/blog/post/2016/02/04/Windows-10-TH2-%28...
sveiss 11y ago
Hopefully they'll include emulation for ptys, which will make it very easy for you to run your terminal emulator of choice instead of relying on on conhost. If they're smart, they'll allow a Linux ABI exe to sit on one end of a pty, and Win32/UWP exe on the other, so people can use a native Windows terminal emulator instead of needing Xming or similar.
- JdeBP 11y ago
  See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11415843 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11415843 .
JdeBP 11y ago
Maybe you should try Take Command. I've been using it for years. It re-displays Win32 consoles in its own tabbed user interface. It provides its own command interpreter (with all sorts of extra stuff), but one can also use it for Microsoft's command interpreter, Bourne Again shell, Z shell, PowerShell, and so forth. * https://jpsoft.com/ https://jpsoft.com/

icc97 11y ago

I agree conhost is terrible - but they have finally made some improvements in Windows 10 [1]: - Drag-to-resize - Automatic text reflowing on resize - Ctrl + X/C/V support for cut/copy/paste - Selection that does line-wrapping - Transparency - A full-screen mode [1]: http://futurice.com/blog/a-saner-windows-command-line-part-1

homulilly 11y ago
Ctrl+Key shortcuts aren't going to work in bash (at least not without breaking other important stuff) so I'm hoping they decide to make quickedit mode more usable someday. Unfortunately I still think this is going to be kind of a shitshow as long as they keep the black box nature of conhost. The terminal apps OSX and most linux distros ship with are fairly bare-bones too and I doubt reprogrammable 256-color mode is on microsoft's roadmap.
- wvenable 11y ago
  "I doubt reprogrammable 256-color mode is on microsoft's roadmap..." http://www.nivot.org/blog/post/2016/02/04/Windows-10-TH2-%28v1511%29-Console-Host-Enhancements http://www.nivot.org/blog/post/2016/02/04/Windows-10-TH2-%28...

sveiss 11y ago

Hopefully they'll include emulation for ptys, which will make it very easy for you to run your terminal emulator of choice instead of relying on on conhost. If they're smart, they'll allow a Linux ABI exe to sit on one end of a pty, and Win32/UWP exe on the other, so people can use a native Windows terminal emulator instead of needing Xming or similar.

JdeBP 11y ago
See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11415843 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11415843 .

JdeBP 11y ago

Maybe you should try Take Command. I've been using it for years. It re-displays Win32 consoles in its own tabbed user interface. It provides its own command interpreter (with all sorts of extra stuff), but one can also use it for Microsoft's command interpreter, Bourne Again shell, Z shell, PowerShell, and so forth. * https://jpsoft.com/ https://jpsoft.com/