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Fortunately X11 is "network transparent" and there's X11 servers for windows. It shouldn't actually be that hard to make this work (though the perf will probab

Fortunately X11 is "network transparent" and there's X11 servers for windows. It shouldn't actually be that hard to make this work (though the perf will probably be pretty bad in a naive implementation). At very worst you could SSH to localhost and X11-forward to the same host -- but you can optimize that.

anthk 11y ago
Nope, XMing works perfectly if you export the display to localhost (the default) and it's really fast, it even has GL support with MESA , with hardware acceleration.
- kristianp 11y ago
  I found apps using xming in a VM to be quite laggy, not fast to the point where I could use them regularly. e.g. SublimeText.
- ionelm 11y ago
  It doesn't. It's outdated and not free. This should be way more known: https://sourceforge.net/projects/vcxsrv/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/vcxsrv/
julian_1 11y ago
Wayland might be a cleaner api layer to integrate into the windows display subsystems.
- techdragon 11y ago
  Or we could use X11 right now with one of the several existing X11 display servers that work on Windows :-)
  - petecox 11y ago
    headless, you're still stuck with Windows Explorer as a window manager. I don't use a particularly fancy WM/DE under Linux but it's the little things such as middle click paste, and window operations such as maximize horizontal/vertical (by using the middle and right mouse buttons) that I miss.
ageofwant 11y ago
Or you could just use ubuntu... It amazes me that people will rag on linux because its "hard" and then build these elaborate Rube-Goldberg machines to avoid the most obvious solution.
- moron4hire 11y ago
  Are those the same people? I don't think those are the same people.
- brianwawok 11y ago
  Ubuntu being has hard nothing to do with why I don't use it as a desktop or laptop environment (but in fact I use for every server I touch if at all possible)
- coldtea 11y ago
  >It amazes me that people will rag on linux because its "hard" and then build these elaborate Rube-Goldberg machines to avoid the most obvious solution. It amazes that people don't understand that one's usage patterns might be different, so "just use Ubuntu" wouldn't be applicable (e.g. UNIX savvy guy who appreciates the shells and userland, but nevertheless wants to do Windows .NET development, or work with native and proprietary Windows programs the rest of the time).
  - ageofwant 11y ago
    The "UNIX savvy guy" will just use Windows when he needs to, either in a VM, a Azure windows instance or his company provided laptop and call it a day. All the yakka spent on avoiding the obvious solutions to justify "usage patterns", should signal any half-aware dev that those precious patterns are broken.
    - rkangel 11y ago
      Yes, I will "just use Windows" when all the dev tools for my embedded environment are only available for Windows. And when I'm stuck on Windows for whatever reason, I'll be immensely grateful to be able to do that with a bash shell and all my normal configuration and tools.

anthk 11y ago

Nope, XMing works perfectly if you export the display to localhost (the default) and it's really fast, it even has GL support with MESA , with hardware acceleration.

kristianp 11y ago
I found apps using xming in a VM to be quite laggy, not fast to the point where I could use them regularly. e.g. SublimeText.
ionelm 11y ago
It doesn't. It's outdated and not free. This should be way more known: https://sourceforge.net/projects/vcxsrv/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/vcxsrv/

julian_1 11y ago

Wayland might be a cleaner api layer to integrate into the windows display subsystems.

techdragon 11y ago
Or we could use X11 right now with one of the several existing X11 display servers that work on Windows :-)
- petecox 11y ago
  headless, you're still stuck with Windows Explorer as a window manager. I don't use a particularly fancy WM/DE under Linux but it's the little things such as middle click paste, and window operations such as maximize horizontal/vertical (by using the middle and right mouse buttons) that I miss.

ageofwant 11y ago

Or you could just use ubuntu... It amazes me that people will rag on linux because its "hard" and then build these elaborate Rube-Goldberg machines to avoid the most obvious solution.

moron4hire 11y ago
Are those the same people? I don't think those are the same people.
brianwawok 11y ago
Ubuntu being has hard nothing to do with why I don't use it as a desktop or laptop environment (but in fact I use for every server I touch if at all possible)
coldtea 11y ago
>It amazes me that people will rag on linux because its "hard" and then build these elaborate Rube-Goldberg machines to avoid the most obvious solution. It amazes that people don't understand that one's usage patterns might be different, so "just use Ubuntu" wouldn't be applicable (e.g. UNIX savvy guy who appreciates the shells and userland, but nevertheless wants to do Windows .NET development, or work with native and proprietary Windows programs the rest of the time).
- ageofwant 11y ago
  The "UNIX savvy guy" will just use Windows when he needs to, either in a VM, a Azure windows instance or his company provided laptop and call it a day. All the yakka spent on avoiding the obvious solutions to justify "usage patterns", should signal any half-aware dev that those precious patterns are broken.
  - rkangel 11y ago
    Yes, I will "just use Windows" when all the dev tools for my embedded environment are only available for Windows. And when I'm stuck on Windows for whatever reason, I'll be immensely grateful to be able to do that with a bash shell and all my normal configuration and tools.