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>Also, Teslas and other electric vehicles do not depend on fossil fuels, even if they can potentially be powered by fossil fuels (at much higher efficiencies th
by hueving 11y ago
>Also, Teslas and other electric vehicles do not depend on fossil fuels, even if they can potentially be powered by fossil fuels (at much higher efficiencies than fossil fuel vehicles)
Of course they do. They are made of materials that depend on fossil fuels for extraction. To pretend otherwise is completely idiotic. Everything that doesn't come from plants has to be mined and mining is energy intensive.
- epistasis 11y agoIt's "completely idiotic" to think that mining can only be done with fossil fuels. Energy is fungible. It doesn't matter if it's energy intensive, industry and mining can succeed without fossil fuels just fine.
- makomk 11y agoTechnically speaking all the plastic used is made from fossil fuels, but taking fossil fuels and turning them into something that we'll bury in holes in the ground instead of burning them probably isn't a bad thing when talking about global warming.
- hueving 11y agoShow me a mine that currently runs without fossil fuels. Once we have haul trucks that are battery powered, then maybe there is something to discuss.
- epistasis 11y agoIs your entire contention that haul trucks Could not be run on electricity or on biofuels or on synthetic fuels? These seem like very fragile assumptions.
- jellicle 11y agoWhat does energy have to do with fossil fuels?