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Or you can be diplomatic about it. Tell the interviewer that you don't think the company will be a right fit for you instead of telling them to fuck off.

by TDL 11y ago

bobwaycott 11y ago
This is not a case of not being a good fit, in which being diplomatic is the right move. This is a recruiter/company passing a subjective and intentionally insulting assessment on a candidate at the outset. This is a brazen power play to increase the existing imbalance of power further toward the recruiter/company, by devaluing the candidate as the opening move. And there is more the OP said about what happened in the interview. That opening statement was intentional psychological fuckery. Don't ever let anyone devalue or dehumanize you. Tell them to fuck off every time.
- mokus 11y ago
  My first inclination upon hearing this situation was to reply with something along the lines of "if you're putting that much stock in my school, that just tells me you're not qualified to judge me by my merits as an engineer, so please stop wasting everyone's time. Good-bye." I definitely agree a move like that is an abusive tactic, but I guess I feel a simple "fuck off" doesn't cut quite deep enough. A concise, polite, retort that actually attacks their competence is even better IMO. A bit harder for them to mentally write off than "that guy was just bitter that I won the conversation"
  - bobwaycott 11y ago
    Heh. Yours is the right hook followed by a left jab type of fuck off. One could also merely walk out without saying a word. The method matters little. Drawing the line and communicating it is what matters.
    - TDL 11y ago
      Delayed reply, but, I think the method matters. How we act should driven by the context of the situation. In an interview I don't think telling someone to fuck off is effective. What you want to do is to rebuke the interviewer. The interviewer might be making the distinction of "elite school" == competence without even thinking about it, in this instance telling them to fuck off will probably just reinforce this view. There is no need to go from polite interview to full nuclear, "fuck off" is an unnecessary escalation.
  - TheOtherHobbes 11y ago
    If someone tells an interviewer to fuck off and walks out, you can always dismiss them as an asshole loser. Telling an interviewer they're not qualified while keeping your dignity is far more effective. The school question isn't a filter for competence but for social class - and if that matters in an interview, it's definitely not a good omen.

Or you can be diplomatic about it. Tell the interviewer that you don't think the company will be a right fit for you instead of telling them to fuck off.

by TDL 11y ago

Or you can be diplomatic about it. Tell the interviewer that you don't think the company will be a right fit for you instead of telling them to fuck off.

bobwaycott 11y ago

This is not a case of not being a good fit, in which being diplomatic is the right move. This is a recruiter/company passing a subjective and intentionally insulting assessment on a candidate at the outset. This is a brazen power play to increase the existing imbalance of power further toward the recruiter/company, by devaluing the candidate as the opening move. And there is more the OP said about what happened in the interview. That opening statement was intentional psychological fuckery. Don't ever let anyone devalue or dehumanize you. Tell them to fuck off every time.

mokus 11y ago
My first inclination upon hearing this situation was to reply with something along the lines of "if you're putting that much stock in my school, that just tells me you're not qualified to judge me by my merits as an engineer, so please stop wasting everyone's time. Good-bye." I definitely agree a move like that is an abusive tactic, but I guess I feel a simple "fuck off" doesn't cut quite deep enough. A concise, polite, retort that actually attacks their competence is even better IMO. A bit harder for them to mentally write off than "that guy was just bitter that I won the conversation"
- bobwaycott 11y ago
  Heh. Yours is the right hook followed by a left jab type of fuck off. One could also merely walk out without saying a word. The method matters little. Drawing the line and communicating it is what matters.
  - TDL 11y ago
    Delayed reply, but, I think the method matters. How we act should driven by the context of the situation. In an interview I don't think telling someone to fuck off is effective. What you want to do is to rebuke the interviewer. The interviewer might be making the distinction of "elite school" == competence without even thinking about it, in this instance telling them to fuck off will probably just reinforce this view. There is no need to go from polite interview to full nuclear, "fuck off" is an unnecessary escalation.
- TheOtherHobbes 11y ago
  If someone tells an interviewer to fuck off and walks out, you can always dismiss them as an asshole loser. Telling an interviewer they're not qualified while keeping your dignity is far more effective. The school question isn't a filter for competence but for social class - and if that matters in an interview, it's definitely not a good omen.