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"I was the first person to unlock the iPhone" It's unfortunate that he actively spreads this lie.

devy 11y ago
There were multiple sources stated that he was indeed the first person to come public about iPhone carrier unlock. [1] Unless you have proof otherwise [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hotz#iOS_device_security https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hotz#iOS_device_securit...
cm3 11y ago
Tidbits like that are what muddy his otherwise notable achievements. He doesn't do himself a favor with that, but that behavior works in other industries, so maybe he just got influence from the wrong places. Or maybe he knows very well what he's doing with the media and is smart. I cannot tell.
striking 11y ago
...wasn't he the first person to unlock the iPhone? Not jailbreak, but unlock. While his blog was still up, he talked about cracking open the first-gen iPhone and getting JTAG, modifying the state of the baseband as it was running. I don't think anyone did that before he did.
Relys 11y ago
@comex: "sounds like geohot all right. https://t.co/busnrUz2hX" https://t.co/busnrUz2hX" @geekable: "@comex If I'm reading this correctly, he's bragging about stealing Vicarious IP. Great plan there" @littlesteve: "@geekable @comex that's exactly what he did, again sounds exactly like him" @SylerClayton: "@littlesteve @geekable @comex Yeah, no surprise there. I respect some of his past work, but would it hurt the guy to be a little less cocky?" @littlesteve: "@SylerClayton @geekable @comex he has always been a little theify, it's his arrogance of "I don't need a team I can do it better" @SylerClayton: "@littlesteve @geekable @comex Didn't he leak some of @Mathieulh's work dumping metldr on the PS3 or did he do all by himself?" @Mathieulh: "@SylerClayton @littlesteve @geekable @comex he didn't do shit, I trusted him with my work and he leaked it. Then I had to document it all just to prove that it was indeed mine, even though I had not planned a public release that soon." @marcan42: "He also gave no credit for our ECDSA fail research until I complained to him." @littlesteve: "@marcan42 @SylerClayton @geekable @comex @Mathieulh that's our geohot right there" @marcan42: "And AIUI he was the "first" to unlock (not JB) an iPhone but based on others' work." Source: https://twitter.com/comex/status/709868908161929216 https://twitter.com/comex/status/709868908161929216 @comex, @Mathieulh and @marcan42 of @fail0verflow are very respected members of the community. I worked personally with @comex to develop the kernel exploit used in https://github.com/wiiudev/libwiiu https://github.com/wiiudev/libwiiu. I can attest that he's one of the nicest and smartest hackers I've ever met and helped me learn a great deal about exploit research and development. Take these words with a grain of salt if you must, but I wouldn't immediately disregard the statements of @geohots peers regarding his character...I'm not contesting that he's brilliant (he certainly is and I can respect that). I'm just saying he seems to be a bit of an egomaniac and sociopath.
- lolidaisuki 11y ago
  > I'm just saying he seems to be a bit of an egomaniac and sociopath. But unlike most such people he is seems to be trying to work for public good instead of just to gain power for himself. He could probably get pretty good life on top of some evil organisations on this planet if he wanted to.

devy 11y ago

There were multiple sources stated that he was indeed the first person to come public about iPhone carrier unlock. [1] Unless you have proof otherwise [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hotz#iOS_device_security https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hotz#iOS_device_securit...

cm3 11y ago

Tidbits like that are what muddy his otherwise notable achievements. He doesn't do himself a favor with that, but that behavior works in other industries, so maybe he just got influence from the wrong places. Or maybe he knows very well what he's doing with the media and is smart. I cannot tell.

striking 11y ago

...wasn't he the first person to unlock the iPhone? Not jailbreak, but unlock. While his blog was still up, he talked about cracking open the first-gen iPhone and getting JTAG, modifying the state of the baseband as it was running. I don't think anyone did that before he did.

Relys 11y ago

@comex: "sounds like geohot all right. https://t.co/busnrUz2hX" https://t.co/busnrUz2hX" @geekable: "@comex If I'm reading this correctly, he's bragging about stealing Vicarious IP. Great plan there" @littlesteve: "@geekable @comex that's exactly what he did, again sounds exactly like him" @SylerClayton: "@littlesteve @geekable @comex Yeah, no surprise there. I respect some of his past work, but would it hurt the guy to be a little less cocky?" @littlesteve: "@SylerClayton @geekable @comex he has always been a little theify, it's his arrogance of "I don't need a team I can do it better" @SylerClayton: "@littlesteve @geekable @comex Didn't he leak some of @Mathieulh's work dumping metldr on the PS3 or did he do all by himself?" @Mathieulh: "@SylerClayton @littlesteve @geekable @comex he didn't do shit, I trusted him with my work and he leaked it. Then I had to document it all just to prove that it was indeed mine, even though I had not planned a public release that soon." @marcan42: "He also gave no credit for our ECDSA fail research until I complained to him." @littlesteve: "@marcan42 @SylerClayton @geekable @comex @Mathieulh that's our geohot right there" @marcan42: "And AIUI he was the "first" to unlock (not JB) an iPhone but based on others' work." Source: https://twitter.com/comex/status/709868908161929216 https://twitter.com/comex/status/709868908161929216 @comex, @Mathieulh and @marcan42 of @fail0verflow are very respected members of the community. I worked personally with @comex to develop the kernel exploit used in https://github.com/wiiudev/libwiiu https://github.com/wiiudev/libwiiu. I can attest that he's one of the nicest and smartest hackers I've ever met and helped me learn a great deal about exploit research and development. Take these words with a grain of salt if you must, but I wouldn't immediately disregard the statements of @geohots peers regarding his character...I'm not contesting that he's brilliant (he certainly is and I can respect that). I'm just saying he seems to be a bit of an egomaniac and sociopath.

lolidaisuki 11y ago
> I'm just saying he seems to be a bit of an egomaniac and sociopath. But unlike most such people he is seems to be trying to work for public good instead of just to gain power for himself. He could probably get pretty good life on top of some evil organisations on this planet if he wanted to.