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HN is the only place I bother solving CAPTCHAs. For everything else, Firefox (Tor Browser) has plugins to get a copy from arhive.org, archive.is, or google-cach
by lake99 11y ago
HN is the only place I bother solving CAPTCHAs. For everything else, Firefox (Tor Browser) has plugins to get a copy from arhive.org, archive.is, or google-cache. So if the page asks me to solve a CAPTCHA, I don't visit them.
This could be a benefit for the website (lower server load) or a harm (fewer people appear to be reading their content, fewer people see their ads). Whatever the case may be, I'm caught in the crossfire between crackers and servers. I don't care about their war at all. As far as I'm concerned, I'm winning.
Cloudfare wanted me to solve a CAPTCHA to read their article. I tried to archive it, but arhive.is already had a copy of it. This happens to me quite often. So, obviously, I'm not the only one who has figured out a way around their war.
> Security, Anonymity, Convenience: Pick Any Two
Nah, I usually have all three.
- scrollaway 11y ago> I usually have all three ... > Firefox (Tor Browser) has plugins to get a copy from arhive.org, archive.is, or google-cache. So if the page asks me to solve a CAPTCHA, I don't visit them. You don't have convenience.
- Sir_Cmpwn 11y agoA one-click measure to circumvent a captcha is pretty good convenience-wise imo.
- scrollaway 11y agoSure, but google cache/archive pages often lack some images, have broken javascript, etc. Additionally, there's a huge difference between "point and click", and "point, click, click again, look for the plugin, another click, do this for every page".
- lake99 11y ago> "point, click, click again, look for the plugin, another click, do this for every page". Honestly, I don't know how I can make the process as complicated as you described it, even if I wanted to. In reality, it is no more complicated than right-click, open in new tab.
- Sir_Cmpwn 11y agoSmart Tor users have JavaScript turned off anyway. You might be lacking the images, but lately this has been pretty good on archive.org.
- scrollaway 11y agoThus cementing the "no convenience" clause. I understand this is an acceptable tradeoff for some people (myself included) but you can't pretend it's convenient.
- Sir_Cmpwn 11y agoAgain, I disagree. Not every website today requires JavaScript, and in fact most websites that cater to the sort of audience that includes Tor users are even less likely to. I don't think anyone sees Tor as a daily driver for general web browsing. It's not much less convenient for the use-cases it's meant to support.
- aw3c2 11y agoGive it a try for a week. You might be amazed how fast, calm and content-rich the web can be, if you disable Javascript by default and whitelist when needed.
- scrollaway 11y agoI'm well aware of what the web is like without JS. I know it's usable. I'm saying it's not convenient. Whitelisting is not convenient. If people are pretending it is, they're doing a disservice to the security community. Kinda how like people pretend GPG is usable and convenient, thus holding back progress in the security UX front.
- aw3c2 11y agoI find SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER and LIKE US ON SOCIAL MEDIAS popups and ads much more inconvenient. Sorry for the late reply.