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Send it. If I can control and extend the computing environment in my car, I will buy that car. I will also release the code I write for it - which creates apps

by yjgyhj 11y ago

Send it. If I can control and extend the computing environment in my car, I will buy that car. I will also release the code I write for it - which creates apps other car makers don't have.

antaviana 11y ago
If you end up tweaking the breaking system, just don't do it too late at night and remember putting an "I hacked my car's software" sticker somewhere visible from other cars in the road.
- zamalek 11y ago
  For any of this you'd likely need all the code and, if I'm understanding things correctly, this is only a partial dump (things licensed under GPL). That is an interesting point in terms of roadworthy legislation, though.
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- LeifCarrotson 11y ago
  The "braking" system - or was that typo intended? Either way, you don't need a license or even much in the way of special tools to replace the brake pads, rotors, calipers, or hoses on any vehicles on the road today. The parts are casually sold at tens of thousands of auto stores across the country in enormous volumes every day, many of them to ordinary men and women working on their cars in their garages. Not all of them get it right, but there is no outcry against this maintenance - why should there be a problem with software? To further assuage your fears, braking systems and other safety-critical components have layers of software and physical fail-safes. If the wheel sensors report unusual data, all-wheel-drive may be disabled. If the anti-lock code doesn't work, you still have regular brakes. If the vacuum assist doesn't work, you still have manual brakes. Similar layers are present in the steering and engine control. If a mechanic applies caliper grease to the brake pads, all of this is for naught - but there is little the software can do to completely disable the brakes.
  - yetihehe 11y ago
    > Either way, you don't need a license or even much in the way of special tools to replace the brake pads, rotors, calipers, or hoses on any vehicles on the road today. Some cars sold today require connecting of specialised diagnostics tool which will allow to change brake pads. Without this tool your calipers will not open. What this tool does? It just sends some commands through vehicle CAN bus, but those commands are proprietary, so you need to pay them about $10k-$100k a year to have access to commands for their cars and licence to use them in your tool.

by yjgyhj 11y ago

Send it. If I can control and extend the computing environment in my car, I will buy that car. I will also release the code I write for it - which creates apps other car makers don't have.

antaviana 11y ago

If you end up tweaking the breaking system, just don't do it too late at night and remember putting an "I hacked my car's software" sticker somewhere visible from other cars in the road.

zamalek 11y ago
For any of this you'd likely need all the code and, if I'm understanding things correctly, this is only a partial dump (things licensed under GPL). That is an interesting point in terms of roadworthy legislation, though.
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LeifCarrotson 11y ago
The "braking" system - or was that typo intended? Either way, you don't need a license or even much in the way of special tools to replace the brake pads, rotors, calipers, or hoses on any vehicles on the road today. The parts are casually sold at tens of thousands of auto stores across the country in enormous volumes every day, many of them to ordinary men and women working on their cars in their garages. Not all of them get it right, but there is no outcry against this maintenance - why should there be a problem with software? To further assuage your fears, braking systems and other safety-critical components have layers of software and physical fail-safes. If the wheel sensors report unusual data, all-wheel-drive may be disabled. If the anti-lock code doesn't work, you still have regular brakes. If the vacuum assist doesn't work, you still have manual brakes. Similar layers are present in the steering and engine control. If a mechanic applies caliper grease to the brake pads, all of this is for naught - but there is little the software can do to completely disable the brakes.
- yetihehe 11y ago
  > Either way, you don't need a license or even much in the way of special tools to replace the brake pads, rotors, calipers, or hoses on any vehicles on the road today. Some cars sold today require connecting of specialised diagnostics tool which will allow to change brake pads. Without this tool your calipers will not open. What this tool does? It just sends some commands through vehicle CAN bus, but those commands are proprietary, so you need to pay them about $10k-$100k a year to have access to commands for their cars and licence to use them in your tool.