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>And BTW by "jail time" I mean serious jail time, as in multiple decades of jail time, and/or life sentences if necessary. Have severe jail sentences rid the w

>And BTW by "jail time" I mean serious jail time, as in multiple decades of jail time, and/or life sentences if necessary. Have severe jail sentences rid the world of illicit drugs users, murderers, cutpurses, burglars, vandals, fraudsters, rapists or anything else? If the chance of being caught and going to jail is lower than the expected gains of not getting caught, criminals gonna criminal. How do you aim to stop that with a threat? Throwing someone in jail is "too little, too late".

cmdrfred 11y ago
> Have severe jail sentences rid the world of illicit drugs users, murderers, cutpurses, burglars, vandals, fraudsters, rapists or anything else? No, but you have to put things into context. Prison is a lot worse for a 50+ year old with a few million in assets than someone who's only other alternative is working at a fast food restaurant for minimum wage. When the choice is deal drugs or simply not make enough to survive there really isn't much of a choice.
- onetimePete 11y ago
  Good government prevention detects such attacks on the allmende before they happen. If you are going to make a paint factory, and you have no contracts, and no money paid, to handle your waste, you are a crook. If you have a paint-production-recyling factory and you have no means to safely handle the remains, you are a crook. This chains can be checked, the quantities handled can be booked. Its a lot of bureaucracy - but its worth it. And i say that, having worked in one of those "regulated" factories and having a inspector being a pain in the ass. Its really, really necessary. Just saying "Nothing can fix this." is easy here, but i dare you say that to the face of a mother or father who just lost there child to cancer. So not even prison- just deny the freedom to be a parasite- to public goods.

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>And BTW by "jail time" I mean serious jail time, as in multiple decades of jail time, and/or life sentences if necessary. Have severe jail sentences rid the w

by forgetsusername 11y ago

cmdrfred 11y ago
> Have severe jail sentences rid the world of illicit drugs users, murderers, cutpurses, burglars, vandals, fraudsters, rapists or anything else? No, but you have to put things into context. Prison is a lot worse for a 50+ year old with a few million in assets than someone who's only other alternative is working at a fast food restaurant for minimum wage. When the choice is deal drugs or simply not make enough to survive there really isn't much of a choice.
- onetimePete 11y ago
  Good government prevention detects such attacks on the allmende before they happen. If you are going to make a paint factory, and you have no contracts, and no money paid, to handle your waste, you are a crook. If you have a paint-production-recyling factory and you have no means to safely handle the remains, you are a crook. This chains can be checked, the quantities handled can be booked. Its a lot of bureaucracy - but its worth it. And i say that, having worked in one of those "regulated" factories and having a inspector being a pain in the ass. Its really, really necessary. Just saying "Nothing can fix this." is easy here, but i dare you say that to the face of a mother or father who just lost there child to cancer. So not even prison- just deny the freedom to be a parasite- to public goods.