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Why are we believing anything the FBI says on the matter?

studentrob 11y ago
Because it's possible that they actually do think this is the right way to keep the public safe, and it is possible that domestic law enforcement's understanding of tech is a lot worse than we imagine. The NSA and the FBI are very different in their understanding of tech. Former NSA director Hayden already said he thinks the FBI's plan is no good. He also said he understands why Comey is pursuing this path. He did not say Comey is lying.
- drjesusphd 11y ago
  I don't care what Hayden says. They lied about the motivation for the case, and they lied about a software update from Apple being the only means of recovering the data.
  - studentrob 11y ago
    A good portion of the public still believes James Comey. That includes lower level law enforcement officers. I want them to do their jobs well. Depending on access to encrypted communications residing in the phones of terrorists isn't going to cut it in the future. It'd be nice if they realized this future is coming very soon. We pay the FBI to be good at maintaining public safety. On top of that, the polls about this issue showed there is somewhere between 40 and 50 percent of the public who sides with the FBI in the SB case. If backdoor legislation is introduced following a terrorist attack, there is a chance it could pass. We're better off educating the public now about how encryption works and where it is used. The people we want to convince already trust the government. They will not listen if you include "the FBI lied about everything" in your argument. I think they could understand that backdoor-less encryption tech is better for our safety than backdoored encryption, given some explanation that one weakness exposes all devices. And, I think they could understand the impracticalities of enforcing what the government wants, given some discussion about how encryption is used in both commercial and free and open source messaging apps.

Because it's possible that they actually do think this is the right way to keep the public safe, and it is possible that domestic law enforcement's understanding of tech is a lot worse than we imagine. The NSA and the FBI are very different in their understanding of tech. Former NSA director Hayden already said he thinks the FBI's plan is no good. He also said he understands why Comey is pursuing this path. He did not say Comey is lying.

drjesusphd 11y ago
I don't care what Hayden says. They lied about the motivation for the case, and they lied about a software update from Apple being the only means of recovering the data.
- studentrob 11y ago
  A good portion of the public still believes James Comey. That includes lower level law enforcement officers. I want them to do their jobs well. Depending on access to encrypted communications residing in the phones of terrorists isn't going to cut it in the future. It'd be nice if they realized this future is coming very soon. We pay the FBI to be good at maintaining public safety. On top of that, the polls about this issue showed there is somewhere between 40 and 50 percent of the public who sides with the FBI in the SB case. If backdoor legislation is introduced following a terrorist attack, there is a chance it could pass. We're better off educating the public now about how encryption works and where it is used. The people we want to convince already trust the government. They will not listen if you include "the FBI lied about everything" in your argument. I think they could understand that backdoor-less encryption tech is better for our safety than backdoored encryption, given some explanation that one weakness exposes all devices. And, I think they could understand the impracticalities of enforcing what the government wants, given some discussion about how encryption is used in both commercial and free and open source messaging apps.