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Actually, `apt update` has a GUI application called 'software updater' and `apt` has a 'software centre' on Ubuntu these days. I'll grant you the other two.

• onli 11y ago
  > I'll grant you the other two. I don't. Ubuntu does not come with a firewall, but if you want one you search in the software center for firewall, not for an acronym. Scheduled tasks finds a gnome app for managing automatic jobs (which are cron jobs). cm2187 is either a troll or completely clueless of what a current linux desktop actually is. Worrying about things like automated tasks and being put off by the differences between Windows and Linux in specialised areas like this no normal user would ever touch is rather common for Windows power users though. For them, any change means losing a big part of their abilities, and that hurts. It's exactly what Linus mentions: Many people don't like change for their desktop environment (in the broad sense, not only KDE/Gnome). This is a perfect example of user inertia.
  • Svip 11y ago
    You are right; I should have rephrased that sentence. I merely meant that I have never looked into those. And when I use scheduled tasks I refer to them as `cron`. Even on Windows.
  • cyphar 11y ago
    OpenSUSE does come with a firewall which has a graphical manager. So there's that. Ubuntu isn't the only Linux distribution.
    • onli 11y ago
      And that graphical manager is not findable in the menu by searching for firewall?
      • cyphar 11y ago
        Hmmm. It should be, but IIRC it's managed by the YaST GUI.
  • tyingq 11y ago
    The replies seem to hint at the real problem. Fragmented efforts to settle on a desktop. The desktop could make the "Scheduled Tasks" -> "Cron" association more transparent. But not when there are a dozen variants for each of the 3/4/5 different base desktop stacks floating around.
    • onli 11y ago
      No, that does not follow. If all dozen variants properly made Scheduled Tasks available than it would not matter that we do not have the one unifying linux desktop (and the gods be thanked we don't) and that we call them cron. In fact I state that all popular DEs solve those basic usability problems since a few years ago.
      • tyingq 11y ago
        Ok. So there's something that compels them all to call it "Scheduled Tasks" and some unified way to find/navigate to it, shared language/terminology? Seems doubtful. Compare the typical results for a Google search on how to add a scheduled task in windows to the same for linux. For the UI oriented answers on Linux, guess the chances it works on your desktop.
        • cm2187 11y ago
          The whole point of a good UI is that you don't need to google it to understand how it works.
          • tyingq 11y ago
            Great soundbite, but in the real world, things aren't always that easy. Like when you plug in a USB to Serial connector, and the driver doesn't attach. For windows, a little google-fu reveals that you want the device manager. For linux, command line solutions are easy to find. Gui ones exist, but they vary, and aren't easy to find.
• XorNot 11y ago
  Gnome desktop has "Scheduled Tasks" (it's their cron management application).