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An interesting titbit of information from LambdaConf's organiser: "In the past few days, we’ve also seen a huge bump in the number of people applying for our di
by lhnz 11y ago
An interesting titbit of information from LambdaConf's organiser: "In the past few days, we’ve also seen a huge bump in the number of people applying for our diversity scholarship program (49 applications so far), and we’re doing everything in our power to give out as many scholarships as possible." [0]
It's good of Julie and Chris to continue supporting the conference, and (I think) a real shame how quick the other sponsors were to bow out. Hopefully in future people will try to think more about the positive work they can do and less about how they look. (Obviously, for those that really have strong moral reasons to exit, it's a shame but completely understandable.)
I guess one of the positives is that we now have two conferences [1], so those that can't stand the idea of being in the same room as Yarvin can be around other people that think exactly the same.
[0] http://degoes.net/articles/lambdaconf-controversy http://degoes.net/articles/lambdaconf-controversy
[1] http://moonconf.org/ http://moonconf.org/
- setra 11y agoWhats funny about this is that by pulling out as protest for Moldbug they are making it harder for the conference to subsidize diversity.
- lhnz 11y agoYes, it's very sad. Hopefully the community will be able to band together to ensure that any difficulties are overcome. Principles > Politics
- pbarnes_1 11y agoNone of those people was going to go anyway, so the point is moot. This conference is pretty much dead.
- tome 11y ago> This conference is pretty much dead. What makes you think that?
- coolsunglasses 11y ago'Fraid not. The conference is still having three concurrent tracks for three days, nigh 80 speakers. Our training and everything else we're doing (I'm Chris) is still happening too.
- teacup50 11y agoAnyone thinking about attending moonconf should take a quick look at their Code of Conduct: No one at any events associated with Maitria, may speak to, touch, stare at, follow, or otherwise engage someone without their consent. Making jokes within earshot of someone you know (or even think) is upset by them is a violation of consent. Acting as though someone's gender is other than what they say it is is also a violation of consent. Doing things that people feel shitty about is often a violation of consent. Doing them more than once is even more likely a violation of consent. http://maitria.com/coc http://maitria.com/coc Given that Orwellian monster, I'd feel a lot safer at LambdaConf than Moonconf.
- AnimalMuppet 11y ago> No one at any events associated with Maitria, may speak to [snip] someone without their consent. Taken literally, that means that nobody can ever initiate a conversation there. Taken just slightly less literally, though, it means that if you go up to someone and ask "Can I talk to you?" and they say "No", then you can't talk to them. That seems like the way reasonable human beings ought to behave. I agree that the last two sentences seem easy to abuse.
- teacup50 11y agoThis also requires a pretty extreme degree of a priori self-censorship just to be safe: "Making jokes within earshot of someone you know (or even think) is upset by them is a violation of consent"
- HCIdivision17 11y agoThere seems to be a signal of intent there; some people are accidentally senseless jerks (including yours truly), and a simple reprimand is enough to tone it back. By contrast, the sort this seems to be aimed at would likely scoff it off. I guess like "Hey man, don't be a jerk" followed by either "Oh sorry, didn't mean any offense" or "Hey! I'm not a jerk!" Like many moderation policies, I guess we can just hope the moderators are, well, moderate.