Yeah, at least that has multiple independent implementations. All the On2 stuff just has the one, especially since they only ever released new incompatible cod

Yeah, at least that has multiple independent implementations. All the On2 stuff just has the one, especially since they only ever released new incompatible codecs instead of improving their older products. Funnily enough that applies just as much to Theora (née VP3), which right now is a only an open standard in theory, not IETF-level reality. There's a few forks of the original On2 code and a transliteration of the decoder to Java for applets (Cortado). I guess people have been working on writing a new DSP decoder, but the whole thing feels like an even worse recapitulation of the ODF lie.