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> Second, a lot of people actually like reproducing via sex. This is something I thought of. We're biologically engineered to desire sex, and most forms of bi

> Second, a lot of people actually like reproducing via sex. This is something I thought of. We're biologically engineered to desire sex, and most forms of birth control deprive the pleasure we get from the act. Unless you're one of those people who are into karezza, I'm not sure the author's idea is going to appeal to you.

Raphmedia 11y ago
To save everyone a risky search, "Simply stated, Karezza is the practice of gentle, sexual intercourse, without the goal of orgasm. " But I don't see how birth control would deprive you from pleasure from the sexual act. Both partners can get orgasms in safe sexual intercourses...
- Delmania 11y ago
  It depends on the method. I don't think I've ever met someone who likes condoms, and IUTs can be painful if something happens (personal experience). The only method I can think of would be birth control medication, which I know a lot of women use for hormone regulation. However, that's not fail safe. Some of my family member got pregnant while "on the pill".
  - Raphmedia 11y ago
    Around here, all women are on the pill. You only get errors when they don't take it correctly, and there's the morning after pill for that. My personal experience with IUTs is that they work really well with no issues. As for condoms, if you really must use them, simply pay extra for quality and there won't be any issues with how it feels. Most people negative experience with condoms are with those they give for free at schools and you might just as well use a thick rubber balloon at that point...
    - shaftway 11y ago
      People who say that there's no difference with a condom are either lying, have never had sex without a condom, or have a serious defect in their nerve endings. Doesn't matter what brand, quality, or style. The only people I've ever heard of liking condoms are the ones that have trouble with premature ejaculation, where the [significantly] reduced sensation can help them last longer.
      - Raphmedia 11y ago
        [Why am I even talking about condoms on HN?] You need to pay premium to get the thin ones and use plenty of lube. If you get the right ones, you will get all the normal feelings (heat, pressure, etc.) except for the wetness. It will not be the exact same feeling as sexual intercourse without a condom, but it will be close enough. That's a small price to pay to be safe with that one-nigh hookup. If condoms are really an issue for you, get a stable partner that is on birth control. I do not use condoms very often since I am in a stable relationship, but if I can manage to have a load of fun using sleeves that are as thick as dozen condoms and covered with speed bumps from time to time, surely you can manage the occasional thin rubber.
  - hnal943 11y ago
    Also, the pill depresses most women's libdos. I don't think we've listed a non-surgical method of birth control that doesn't reduce pleasure.
- s_kilk 11y ago
  > But I don't see how birth control would deprive you from pleasure from the sexual act. Both partners can get orgasms in safe sexual intercourses... Yeah, but condoms suck, categorically. It's a night/day difference.
misthop 11y ago
While I don't agree with the abstract, I have to disagree with you as well. Men who have had a vasectomy can still have sperm removed for use in an artificial insemination process. In the vast majority of cases sex does not change at all for them after the vasectomy (except for taking the 6 weeks off immediately after the surgery) Edit for circlefavshape's comment: You are right, I got numbers confused. It is suggested to use alternate forms of birth control for 2-3 months after the surgery to verify the success.
- circlefavshape 11y ago
  6 weeks? 10 days in my case
  - deleted 11y ago
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  - justinlardinois 11y ago
    My understanding is that while you may be able to resume activity before then, you run the risk of still being fertile.
    - circlefavshape 11y ago
      Ah. Yes, you are correct - you need to use other contraception until you provide a semen sample that contains no sperm
chongli 11y ago
We're very close to having safe, reversible, hormone-free male contraception now. It's called Vasalgel[0] and it looks extremely promising. [0] https://www.parsemusfoundation.org/projects/vasalgel/ https://www.parsemusfoundation.org/projects/vasalgel/
- dpeck 11y ago
  I've seen the same story off and on for years, I'll be pleasantly surprised if it ever comes to market.
k__ 11y ago
> most forms of birth control deprive the pleasure we get from the act What?!

Raphmedia 11y ago

To save everyone a risky search, "Simply stated, Karezza is the practice of gentle, sexual intercourse, without the goal of orgasm. " But I don't see how birth control would deprive you from pleasure from the sexual act. Both partners can get orgasms in safe sexual intercourses...

Delmania 11y ago
It depends on the method. I don't think I've ever met someone who likes condoms, and IUTs can be painful if something happens (personal experience). The only method I can think of would be birth control medication, which I know a lot of women use for hormone regulation. However, that's not fail safe. Some of my family member got pregnant while "on the pill".
- Raphmedia 11y ago
  Around here, all women are on the pill. You only get errors when they don't take it correctly, and there's the morning after pill for that. My personal experience with IUTs is that they work really well with no issues. As for condoms, if you really must use them, simply pay extra for quality and there won't be any issues with how it feels. Most people negative experience with condoms are with those they give for free at schools and you might just as well use a thick rubber balloon at that point...
  - shaftway 11y ago
    People who say that there's no difference with a condom are either lying, have never had sex without a condom, or have a serious defect in their nerve endings. Doesn't matter what brand, quality, or style. The only people I've ever heard of liking condoms are the ones that have trouble with premature ejaculation, where the [significantly] reduced sensation can help them last longer.
    - Raphmedia 11y ago
      [Why am I even talking about condoms on HN?] You need to pay premium to get the thin ones and use plenty of lube. If you get the right ones, you will get all the normal feelings (heat, pressure, etc.) except for the wetness. It will not be the exact same feeling as sexual intercourse without a condom, but it will be close enough. That's a small price to pay to be safe with that one-nigh hookup. If condoms are really an issue for you, get a stable partner that is on birth control. I do not use condoms very often since I am in a stable relationship, but if I can manage to have a load of fun using sleeves that are as thick as dozen condoms and covered with speed bumps from time to time, surely you can manage the occasional thin rubber.
- hnal943 11y ago
  Also, the pill depresses most women's libdos. I don't think we've listed a non-surgical method of birth control that doesn't reduce pleasure.
s_kilk 11y ago
> But I don't see how birth control would deprive you from pleasure from the sexual act. Both partners can get orgasms in safe sexual intercourses... Yeah, but condoms suck, categorically. It's a night/day difference.

misthop 11y ago

While I don't agree with the abstract, I have to disagree with you as well. Men who have had a vasectomy can still have sperm removed for use in an artificial insemination process. In the vast majority of cases sex does not change at all for them after the vasectomy (except for taking the 6 weeks off immediately after the surgery) Edit for circlefavshape's comment: You are right, I got numbers confused. It is suggested to use alternate forms of birth control for 2-3 months after the surgery to verify the success.

circlefavshape 11y ago
6 weeks? 10 days in my case
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- justinlardinois 11y ago
  My understanding is that while you may be able to resume activity before then, you run the risk of still being fertile.
  - circlefavshape 11y ago
    Ah. Yes, you are correct - you need to use other contraception until you provide a semen sample that contains no sperm

chongli 11y ago

We're very close to having safe, reversible, hormone-free male contraception now. It's called Vasalgel[0] and it looks extremely promising. [0] https://www.parsemusfoundation.org/projects/vasalgel/ https://www.parsemusfoundation.org/projects/vasalgel/

dpeck 11y ago
I've seen the same story off and on for years, I'll be pleasantly surprised if it ever comes to market.

k__ 11y ago

> most forms of birth control deprive the pleasure we get from the act What?!