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To be fair, we (the US) did invade Mexico several times.

by zhemao 11y ago

maaku 11y ago
But not over oil.
- coldtea 11y ago
  No, over land, and other strategic interests at the time.
gozur88 11y ago
If by several you mean "once". Chasing a criminal isn't the same thing as an invasion. And the war with Mexico occurred thirteen years before the US started using oil commercially. This "wars for oil" stuff is something a lot of people repeat to themselves without really thinking about it.
- coldtea 11y ago
  >This "wars for oil" stuff is something a lot of people repeat to themselves without really thinking about it. And then you bring Venezuela, Russia, Nigeria etc as examples where these things didn't happen... Not only forgetting all the places where those wars DID happen (all over the wider middle east for one), but also the numerous ways the west intervened in those places, from constant pressure with tons of ways (sponsoring political opponents, arming guerilla groups, helping their border states invade them, manipulating their economy, down to toppling governments). Maybe get 2-3 good books about the subject? Or an article to start: http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-cia-pentagon-isis-20160327-story.html http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-cia-pentagon-i... http://www.h-net.org/reviews/showrev.php?id=852 http://www.h-net.org/reviews/showrev.php?id=852 http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/03/18/u-s-interventions-in-venezuela-peru-and-paraguay/ http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/03/18/u-s-interventions-in-... http://www.venezuelasolidarity.co.uk/latest-wikileaks-show-further-us-intervention-in-venezuela/ http://www.venezuelasolidarity.co.uk/latest-wikileaks-show-f... http://www.amazon.com/Crude-Interventions-United-States-World/dp/1842776290 http://www.amazon.com/Crude-Interventions-United-States-Worl... http://williamblum.org/chapters/freeing-the-world-to-death/us-coup-against-hugo-chavez-of-venezuela-2002 http://williamblum.org/chapters/freeing-the-world-to-death/u...
  - gozur88 11y ago
    The US has meddled in the affairs of lots of countries. Countries with oil and countries without. How much oil do Japan and Korea have? Chile?
- zhemao 11y ago
  If you don't count the hunt for Pancho Villa, then it was twice. Once during the Mexican-American War, and then the Occupation of Veracruz during the Mexican Revolution.

To be fair, we (the US) did invade Mexico several times.

by zhemao 11y ago

To be fair, we (the US) did invade Mexico several times.

maaku 11y ago

But not over oil.

coldtea 11y ago
No, over land, and other strategic interests at the time.

gozur88 11y ago

If by several you mean "once". Chasing a criminal isn't the same thing as an invasion. And the war with Mexico occurred thirteen years before the US started using oil commercially. This "wars for oil" stuff is something a lot of people repeat to themselves without really thinking about it.

coldtea 11y ago
>This "wars for oil" stuff is something a lot of people repeat to themselves without really thinking about it. And then you bring Venezuela, Russia, Nigeria etc as examples where these things didn't happen... Not only forgetting all the places where those wars DID happen (all over the wider middle east for one), but also the numerous ways the west intervened in those places, from constant pressure with tons of ways (sponsoring political opponents, arming guerilla groups, helping their border states invade them, manipulating their economy, down to toppling governments). Maybe get 2-3 good books about the subject? Or an article to start: http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-cia-pentagon-isis-20160327-story.html http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-cia-pentagon-i... http://www.h-net.org/reviews/showrev.php?id=852 http://www.h-net.org/reviews/showrev.php?id=852 http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/03/18/u-s-interventions-in-venezuela-peru-and-paraguay/ http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/03/18/u-s-interventions-in-... http://www.venezuelasolidarity.co.uk/latest-wikileaks-show-further-us-intervention-in-venezuela/ http://www.venezuelasolidarity.co.uk/latest-wikileaks-show-f... http://www.amazon.com/Crude-Interventions-United-States-World/dp/1842776290 http://www.amazon.com/Crude-Interventions-United-States-Worl... http://williamblum.org/chapters/freeing-the-world-to-death/us-coup-against-hugo-chavez-of-venezuela-2002 http://williamblum.org/chapters/freeing-the-world-to-death/u...
- gozur88 11y ago
  The US has meddled in the affairs of lots of countries. Countries with oil and countries without. How much oil do Japan and Korea have? Chile?
zhemao 11y ago
If you don't count the hunt for Pancho Villa, then it was twice. Once during the Mexican-American War, and then the Occupation of Veracruz during the Mexican Revolution.