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True. The desired outcome is to create massive instability there, massive loss of life, and to deal a crippling blow to a region that the US wishes to dominate

True. The desired outcome is to create massive instability there, massive loss of life, and to deal a crippling blow to a region that the US wishes to dominate from afar.

agumonkey 11y ago
What would be the reason for such domination ? Is America really imperialist at its core ? do they wish for resource independence (again) by disrupting this region ? The Syrian war has ripples up to Europe core now. I'd be surprised if minds would keep on pushing a direction that could create a worldwide chaos.
- hammock 11y ago
  http://www.oil-price.net/cartoons/iran-iraq-syria-pipeline.jpg http://www.oil-price.net/cartoons/iran-iraq-syria-pipeline.j...
  - agumonkey 11y ago
    Very "generous" of you. I know oil flows from there. I mean that's an old song that didn't work before. And people are also vocally trying to get away from oil based energy as much as possible (be it solar, wind, waves). Causing a proto WWIII for this ? .. Tell me more if you have data.
    - hammock 11y ago
      Trying but not succeeding. http://www.ibm.com/smarterplanet/global/images/us__en_us__oil__oil_gas_info2__364x350.gif http://www.ibm.com/smarterplanet/global/images/us__en_us__oi... The US economy hinges on sustaining the petrodollar system. http://ftmdaily.com/preparing-for-the-collapse-of-the-petrodollar-system/ http://ftmdaily.com/preparing-for-the-collapse-of-the-petrod...
      - JumpCrisscross 11y ago
        > The US economy hinges on sustaining the petrodollar system This is an incredibly uninformed view. Dollar hegemony rests on our being the sole trusted enforcer of the oceans' open navigation. That confers us, directly and indirectly as a large economy, economic advantages which in turn reinforce our military's ability to defend this position. Petrodollar monetarism is no longer a dominating factor to our financial system. Relying on it as a forecasting model, for economic or geopolitical aims, will produce bad outputs.
        JupiterMoon 11y ago
        The oil price has an enormous effect upon world economies.
- hartpuff 11y ago
  > Is America really imperialist at its core ? If you look at the history of the USA, from its original 13 states, which themselves were a product of imperialism, and at Manifest Destiny, I'm not sure how this is even a serious question.

True. The desired outcome is to create massive instability there, massive loss of life, and to deal a crippling blow to a region that the US wishes to dominate from afar.

agumonkey 11y ago

What would be the reason for such domination ? Is America really imperialist at its core ? do they wish for resource independence (again) by disrupting this region ? The Syrian war has ripples up to Europe core now. I'd be surprised if minds would keep on pushing a direction that could create a worldwide chaos.

hammock 11y ago
http://www.oil-price.net/cartoons/iran-iraq-syria-pipeline.jpg http://www.oil-price.net/cartoons/iran-iraq-syria-pipeline.j...
- agumonkey 11y ago
  Very "generous" of you. I know oil flows from there. I mean that's an old song that didn't work before. And people are also vocally trying to get away from oil based energy as much as possible (be it solar, wind, waves). Causing a proto WWIII for this ? .. Tell me more if you have data.
  - hammock 11y ago
    Trying but not succeeding. http://www.ibm.com/smarterplanet/global/images/us__en_us__oil__oil_gas_info2__364x350.gif http://www.ibm.com/smarterplanet/global/images/us__en_us__oi... The US economy hinges on sustaining the petrodollar system. http://ftmdaily.com/preparing-for-the-collapse-of-the-petrodollar-system/ http://ftmdaily.com/preparing-for-the-collapse-of-the-petrod...
    - JumpCrisscross 11y ago
      > The US economy hinges on sustaining the petrodollar system This is an incredibly uninformed view. Dollar hegemony rests on our being the sole trusted enforcer of the oceans' open navigation. That confers us, directly and indirectly as a large economy, economic advantages which in turn reinforce our military's ability to defend this position. Petrodollar monetarism is no longer a dominating factor to our financial system. Relying on it as a forecasting model, for economic or geopolitical aims, will produce bad outputs.
      - JupiterMoon 11y ago
        The oil price has an enormous effect upon world economies.
hartpuff 11y ago
> Is America really imperialist at its core ? If you look at the history of the USA, from its original 13 states, which themselves were a product of imperialism, and at Manifest Destiny, I'm not sure how this is even a serious question.