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> why did they back out now? Because it's a part of an orchestrated campaign to try and restore international trust in the US companies? Their credibility was

by eps 11y ago

> why did they back out now? Because it's a part of an orchestrated campaign to try and restore international trust in the US companies? Their credibility was decimated by Snowden revelations. This includes Apple who jumped into the bed with NSA as soon as Jobs was out of the way. So Feds cook up a case to challenge Apple on something crypto, scream their lungs out how they can't get in, but then bail out on technicality. The net effect - everyone now thinks Apple is a bastion of privacy and iPhones are Fort Knoxes of quality encryption. What will come next is another case with a major telco vendor (cisco, juniper, etc) that will work to the same effect. Just grab your popcorn and see.

TheSpiceIsLife 11y ago
You're probably correct, in my opinion. Don't forget the bit where they (Apple) have been issued an NSL, so while the public is distracted by the smoke and mirrors the G-men get what they want.
- kuschku 11y ago
  Apple even said they’d have complied if the FBI had asked secretly – not publicly – like the last 27 times.
  - kabdib 11y ago
    When did Apple say that?
  - macintux 11y ago
    As best as I recall, in that paragraph they did not say they would comply, just that they would make every effort to assist. I believe the subtlety was lost on those who want to believe Apple is being hypocritical.
    - kuschku 11y ago
      The difference is still the same: Apple isn’t resisting out of good faith, but because they don’t want to risk a public precedence case.
      - macintux 11y ago
        Thanks for proving my point.
studentrob 11y ago
There's no evidence for any of that. Our politicians can't even figure out how to secure their emails. If they cooked up such a grand conspiracy, these days, it would get out. Anyway that's CIA level stuff, not politicians. Not even the same ballpark. The current state of the case suggests Apple's phones aren't 100% secure. The FBI found a way in without Apple. What happens next in your view? The FBI brings another case against a new model of an Apple phone and Apple wins? And then meanwhile, behind the scenes, FBI agents everywhere are unlocking the next iPhone without the public ever finding out? I don't think so. That's too complicated. Occam's razor. There is more truth in what politicians say than you realize. It isn't all true but one rotten idea doesn't spoil the bunch. Individual people are complicated, but collectively we don't work together or maneuver so quickly.

by eps 11y ago

TheSpiceIsLife 11y ago

You're probably correct, in my opinion. Don't forget the bit where they (Apple) have been issued an NSL, so while the public is distracted by the smoke and mirrors the G-men get what they want.

kuschku 11y ago
Apple even said they’d have complied if the FBI had asked secretly – not publicly – like the last 27 times.
- kabdib 11y ago
  When did Apple say that?
- macintux 11y ago
  As best as I recall, in that paragraph they did not say they would comply, just that they would make every effort to assist. I believe the subtlety was lost on those who want to believe Apple is being hypocritical.
  - kuschku 11y ago
    The difference is still the same: Apple isn’t resisting out of good faith, but because they don’t want to risk a public precedence case.
    - macintux 11y ago
      Thanks for proving my point.

studentrob 11y ago

There's no evidence for any of that. Our politicians can't even figure out how to secure their emails. If they cooked up such a grand conspiracy, these days, it would get out. Anyway that's CIA level stuff, not politicians. Not even the same ballpark. The current state of the case suggests Apple's phones aren't 100% secure. The FBI found a way in without Apple. What happens next in your view? The FBI brings another case against a new model of an Apple phone and Apple wins? And then meanwhile, behind the scenes, FBI agents everywhere are unlocking the next iPhone without the public ever finding out? I don't think so. That's too complicated. Occam's razor. There is more truth in what politicians say than you realize. It isn't all true but one rotten idea doesn't spoil the bunch. Individual people are complicated, but collectively we don't work together or maneuver so quickly.