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Well, on the ESP8266 you have to code directly in C with the library or in MicroPython, which isn't fantastic - on the CHIP you use whatever you (Go, Node, real

Well, on the ESP8266 you have to code directly in C with the library or in MicroPython, which isn't fantastic - on the CHIP you use whatever you (Go, Node, real Python, Java) that compiles to ARM for $4 more with easier I/O.

kweks 11y ago
You can also use node.js, or lua on the ESP. It's not the perfect solution for everything; but it's tiny, and it costs $1.50 on aliexpress / banggood, and there's a ton of code for it. If you need a module that is mono-task, tiny, cheap and reliable, it's hard to go past the ESP. If you're looking for a full computer, then it's an obvious choice towards CHIP / Raspberry PI, etc
sklogic 11y ago
What's wrong with coding in C? You're unlikely to ever need anything too complex on such a device, so C is a totally adequate choice.
- mixedCase 11y ago
  Totally adequate if the goal is to produce content for the @InternetOfShit guy, unless "coffee at work" for you means sharing a drink and cracking jokes with Ken Thompson and John Carmack. I'd consider the ESP8266 if I could run Go or Rust on it.
  - sklogic 11y ago
    Mind explaining what did you mean by this? For the typical scale of a esp8266 project there is no difference between C and Go and Rust. Actually, C can be much safer of you follow MISRA and use all the appropriate tools.
gh02t 11y ago
My point is though that these are complementary. Read sensor -> send data is a trivial task that takes a few lines of code, most of which is importing libraries and the CHIP is vastly overpowered. I'm saying, put your complex data logging/smart home/whatever logic in <language of choice> on the CHIP and have your sensors be simple (read: reliable) nodes that connect to the CHIP as a hub. It's not so much a matter of price as it is minimizing complexity. Also I don't know many people who use the native C SDK for the ESP8266. Most people use Arduino (simplified C++), but there's also Lua, Javascript and Python.
StavrosK 11y ago
The problem with the CHIP/Pi Zero/etc is that I now have tens of devices sitting in my network, ready to be owned if I don't regularly update them all.
- gh02t 11y ago
  Yeah, I have a separate encrypted Wifi that isn't routed to the Internet. Only a heavily firewalled RasPi is, so anything that needs data from the Internet has to ask that. I don't particularly trust any IoT devices security wise, either made by me or commercial, but it can be mitigated and I'm not really concerned.

kweks 11y ago

You can also use node.js, or lua on the ESP. It's not the perfect solution for everything; but it's tiny, and it costs $1.50 on aliexpress / banggood, and there's a ton of code for it. If you need a module that is mono-task, tiny, cheap and reliable, it's hard to go past the ESP. If you're looking for a full computer, then it's an obvious choice towards CHIP / Raspberry PI, etc

sklogic 11y ago

What's wrong with coding in C? You're unlikely to ever need anything too complex on such a device, so C is a totally adequate choice.

mixedCase 11y ago
Totally adequate if the goal is to produce content for the @InternetOfShit guy, unless "coffee at work" for you means sharing a drink and cracking jokes with Ken Thompson and John Carmack. I'd consider the ESP8266 if I could run Go or Rust on it.
- sklogic 11y ago
  Mind explaining what did you mean by this? For the typical scale of a esp8266 project there is no difference between C and Go and Rust. Actually, C can be much safer of you follow MISRA and use all the appropriate tools.

gh02t 11y ago

My point is though that these are complementary. Read sensor -> send data is a trivial task that takes a few lines of code, most of which is importing libraries and the CHIP is vastly overpowered. I'm saying, put your complex data logging/smart home/whatever logic in <language of choice> on the CHIP and have your sensors be simple (read: reliable) nodes that connect to the CHIP as a hub. It's not so much a matter of price as it is minimizing complexity. Also I don't know many people who use the native C SDK for the ESP8266. Most people use Arduino (simplified C++), but there's also Lua, Javascript and Python.

StavrosK 11y ago

The problem with the CHIP/Pi Zero/etc is that I now have tens of devices sitting in my network, ready to be owned if I don't regularly update them all.

gh02t 11y ago
Yeah, I have a separate encrypted Wifi that isn't routed to the Internet. Only a heavily firewalled RasPi is, so anything that needs data from the Internet has to ask that. I don't particularly trust any IoT devices security wise, either made by me or commercial, but it can be mitigated and I'm not really concerned.